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Suspensions Looming for Those Linked to Biogenesis

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by tellitlikeitis, Jun 4, 2013.

  1. Shaud

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    Probably can say that about most baseball players.

    Cheating on wives can say that about damn near every athlete.
     
  2. plutoblue11

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    Baseball is still the sacred cow in American sports ... the game is supposed to be more pure and righteous than all of those other sports were the heathens run the front office or populate each roster. Baseball players are supposed to be like angels sent down from heaven to let their God-given talent entertain people, while such players must always be fully committed to honor traditions and tenants that have always remained holy in baseball.
     
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    +1, yeah, we wouldn't have any players, if we kicked players out for cheating on their wives or girlfriends.


    I also want to point out towards baseball, what is supposed to be so pure about Major League baseball, when the sport can hardly ever go 5 or 10 years without some scandal...let's beyond honest the sport has also revealed some kind of corruption or cheating going on throughout it's history.
     
  4. plutoblue11

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    Placing bets on major league baseball game, possibly your own team, while you are an active coach.

    I honestly believe that PEDS are ridiculously overblown to begin with, but when we start to talk about direct manipulation of the game or possible point shaving. That's almost completely disingenuous, because there's such controlled outcome. There's no controlled outcome with PEDs, which don't necessarily make your a better player or greater talent.
     
  5. Air Langhi

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    Given that home runs and runs scored have plummeted, of course it had a huge impact on the game. It almost became common to hit 50 home runs during the roids era. Now you barely see anyone hit 50.
     
  6. Shaud

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    This is why I don't get why Tiger Woods all of a sudden became hated because of the situation with his wife. If people hate him for that they must despise athletes period.
     
  7. plutoblue11

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    Still performance enhancing drugs again do not necessarily equate one to hitting more home runs, higher batting averages, or higher on base percentage, while if I am a coach I can influence lineup changes, make certain calls, leave certain players on the DL, and etc.

    It's not as common for players to hit 50 home runs, I could easily say may be, because the home run hitters now aren't quite as good as the last generation of home run hitters - Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Griffey Jr., Belle, Thomas, A-Rod, Pujols, and others. Not everyone was using, and everyone who did...wasn't necessarily becoming home run hitters over night. The only person I could truly say that about was Brady Anderson.
     
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    That's the only conclusion I could draw, as simple as domestic squabble over a cheating spouse. I mean that never happens ...
     
  9. MadMax

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    Sounds like Nelson Cruz accepted 50 game suspension.

    For a team struggling to score runs, that's not good news.

    I ain't even mad.
     
  10. J.R.

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    Players accepting 50 game suspensions:
    Francisco Cervelli
    Jesus Montero
    Cesar Puello
    Fautino De Los Santos
    Fernando Martinez
    Jordan Norberto
    Nelson Cruz
    Jhonny Peralta
    Everth Cabrera
    Antonio Bastardo
    Jordany Valdespin
    Sergio Escalona

    No additional suspension:
    Bartolo Colon
    Yasmani Grandal
    Melky Cabrera
    Gio Gonzalez
    Danny Valencia
     
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    MLB will officially suspend around through the 2014 season today at 2pm.

    They will use multiple parts of the CBA, not just the drug agreement.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Alex Rodriguez of New York Yankees suspended 211 Regular Season Games through 2014 season. Press release: (cont) <a href="http://t.co/heT2ZDd8WU">http://t.co/heT2ZDd8WU</a></p>&mdash; MLB Public Relations (@MLB_PR) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB_PR/statuses/364461712298487808">August 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    Alex Rodriguez of New York Yankees suspended 211 Regular Season Games through 2014 season. Press release:


    YANKEES’ RODRIGUEZ DISCIPLINED

    New York Third Baseman Suspended 211 Regular Season Games Through 2014 Season

    Commissioner Allan H. (Bud) Selig announced today that third baseman Alex Rodriguez of the New York Yankees has been suspended without pay for the remainder of the 2013 Championship Season and Postseason and the entire 2014 Championship Season for violations of the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program and the Basic Agreement.

    Rodriguez's discipline under the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program is based on his use and possession of numerous forms of prohibited performance-enhancing substances, including Testosterone and human Growth Hormone, over the course of multiple years. Rodriguez's discipline under the Basic Agreement is for attempting to cover-up his violations of the Program by engaging in a course of conduct intended to obstruct and frustrate the Office of the Commissioner's investigation. The suspension, which will become effective on Thursday, August 8th, will cover 211 Championship Season games and any 2013 Postseason games in which Rodriguez otherwise would have been eligible to play.

    Under the terms of the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program, Rodriguez’s suspension will be stayed until the completion of his appeal if Rodriguez files a grievance challenging his discipline.
     
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    Ryan Braun statement

    Now that the initial MLB investigation is over, I want to apologize for my actions and provide a more specific account of what I did and why I deserved to be suspended. I have no one to blame but myself. I know that over the last year and a half I made some serious mistakes, both in the information I failed to share during my arbitration hearing and the comments I made to the press afterwards.

    I have disappointed the people closest to me -- the ones who fought for me because they truly believed me all along. I kept the truth from everyone. For a long time, I was in denial and convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong.

    It is important that people understand that I did not share details of what happened with anyone until recently. My family, my teammates, the Brewers organization, my friends, agents, and advisors had no knowledge of these facts, and no one should be blamed but me. Those who put their necks out for me have been embarrassed by my behavior. I don't have the words to express how sorry I am for that.

    Here is what happened. During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used. The products were a cream and a lozenge which I was told could help expedite my rehabilitation. It was a huge mistake for which I am deeply ashamed and I compounded the situation by not admitting my mistakes immediately.

    I deeply regret many of the things I said at the press conference after the arbitrator's decision in February 2012. At that time, I still didn't want to believe that I had used a banned substance. I think a combination of feeling self righteous and having a lot of unjustified anger led me to react the way I did. I felt wronged and attacked, but looking back now, I was the one who was wrong. I am beyond embarrassed that I said what I thought I needed to say to defend my clouded vision of reality. I am just starting the process of trying to understand why I responded the way I did, which I continue to regret. There is no excuse for any of this.

    For too long during this process, I convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong. After my interview with MLB in late June of this year, I came to the realization that it was time to come to grips with the truth. I was never presented with baseball's evidence against me, but I didn't need to be, because I knew what I had done. I realized the magnitude of my poor decisions and finally focused on dealing with the realities of-and the punishment for-my actions.

    I requested a second meeting with Baseball to acknowledge my violation of the drug policy and to engage in discussions about appropriate punishment for my actions. By coming forward when I did and waiving my right to appeal any sanctions that were going to be imposed, I knew I was making the correct decision and taking the first step in the right direction. It was important to me to begin my suspension immediately to minimize the burden on everyone I had so negatively affected- my teammates, the entire Brewers organization, the fans and all of MLB. There has been plenty of rumor and speculation about my situation, and I am aware that my admission may result in additional attacks and accusations from others.

    I love the great game of baseball and I am very sorry for any damage done to the game. I have privately expressed my apologies to Commissioner Selig and Rob Manfred of MLB and to Michael Weiner and his staff at the Players' Association. I'm very grateful for the support I've received from them. I sincerely apologize to everybody involved in the arbitration process, including the collector, Dino Laurenzi, Jr. I feel terrible that I put my teammates in a position where they were asked some very difficult and uncomfortable questions. One of my primary goals is to make amends with them.

    I understand it's a blessing and a tremendous honor to play this game at the Major League level. I also understand the intensity of the disappointment from teammates, fans, and other players. When it comes to both my actions and my words, I made some very serious mistakes and I can only ask for the forgiveness of everyone I let down. I will never make the same errors again and I intend to share the lessons I learned with others so they don't repeat my mistakes. Moving forward, I want to be part of the solution and no longer part of the problem.

    I support baseball's Joint Drug Treatment and Prevention Program and the importance of cleaning up the game. What I did goes against everything I have always valued- achieving through hard work and dedication, and being honest both on and off the field. I also understand that I will now have to work very, very hard to begin to earn back people's trust and support. I am dedicated to making amends and to earning back the trust of my teammates, the fans, the entire Brewers' organization, my sponsors, advisors and from MLB. I am hopeful that I can earn back the trust from those who I have disappointed and those who are willing to give me the opportunity. I am deeply sorry for my actions, and I apologize to everyone who has been adversely affected by them.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Braun was hurt? Oh... Ok... I TOTALLY believe you. And I'll forget you said Laurenzi was an Anti-Semite.</p>&mdash; Morgan Ensberg (@MorganEnsberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/MorganEnsberg/statuses/370924808235536385">August 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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