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Suspended license in Texas finally getting noticed.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Fatty FatBastard, Mar 14, 2007.

  1. IROC it

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    I'm not being holier than thou when I say that Fatty seems to be a chronic petty (edit: you know where I'm headed with this phrase)... am I?

    Dude... be responsible for your stuff! Driving is a privilege, not a right!


    Don't you remember driver's ed? High school, etc? :eek:

    Break the law? Pay the consequences.

    EDIT #2: The notice comes in the mail that it is time to renew your license, only if you keep it updated with DPS. All lawyers know this by the way.
     
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  2. Fatty FatBastard

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    Really? Do tell. I have a feeling this isn't true, at all. But please tell how you know more about these cases. I'm dying to hear it.
     
  3. Fatty FatBastard

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    Please explain. Exactly what have I done again?

    And are you saying that someone with an expired driver's license should pay through the nose for it, but someone going 100 in a 35 shouldn't?

    BTW, I haven't had a moving violation in quite some time. This has nothing to do with Driver's ed.

    Honestly, I can't believe people are actually even arguing about this. Even the news story and the experts said what Texas is doing with this law is downright shady, at best.
     
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  4. IROC it

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    Ignored your civic responsibility to update with DPS.

    It is what it is. You're helping fund road repair. Thanks for the new pavement, Fatty.


    Good for you. Keep the roads safe for us.

    Don't know about your DE teacher, but ours told us that driving is a privilege not a right, and that we are responsible to keep up with the laws that pertain to it.

    It's an adult thing. Responsibility. Some 30-somethings still struggle with that reality.

    Funny thing is though... we don't have an issue with it if "we've" kept our address current, now do we?
     
  5. Fatty FatBastard

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    This makes me a petty criminal? Exactly how, again?

    The rest of your response is simply being an a**hole, so I'm not going to bother.

    If you truly believe that not changing my address should involve jail time and over 1,000 in fines, than you have a warped sense of morality.
     
  6. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    So basically he forget to send in a piece of paper...
    insert AI monologue on practice except insert word "paper" for "practice"
    EX: "we are talkin about paper"
    MONEY GRAB
     
  7. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    This will be good...
     
  8. Kyakko

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    yea.. i totally agree. our government is blurring the line between what's really the right thing to do and just ways to get money. i recently got a dui and that's my fault and i'm willing to pay the hefty fine ($1,700) and do my time. however, they're charging me for the 5 hours in the holding cell, court time and charging me for community service. i wondering where did my regular tax money go and wasn't it suppose to pay for the beaucracy? if so, i'm getting double taxed. i'm sure there's alot of people that'll say "yea, you deserve cuz you broke the law, blah blah", but i disagree. i deserve to do my time and pay my fine, not to be taken advantage of and double taxed to pay for things that my tax money was suppose to pay for in the first place. i mean, fines are suppose to be deterrents. if it's not enough, raise it. it's hard to believe the surcharges, fees and other tag ons arn't just back door taxes. it's a clever way of making money without dealing with messy state voters and legislation, which is just wrong.

    it reminds of a a couple of years back when California lowered the highway speed limit and found that it didn't reduce accident or increased the amount of speeders. what did they do? they raised the speed limit back to 65 but doubled the normal fine.
     
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  9. MR. MEOWGI

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    But we have taken the time to go to the DPS to makes sure we do what we are supposed to do to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen to us. That's why we are unsympathetic. Yeah it sucks waiting in line at the DPS to get our licence renewed but we did it. You did not. So I don't feel sorry for you at all. And I have always known to update my license when I move. That is pretty much common knowledge.

    I just got a ticket in my little neighborhood for running a 3 way stop sign where there are hardly ever any cars. I missed work to go to court and pay the $165 for court fees. I'm not crying about it. I was busted. I broke the law. It was my first ticket in over 10 years.
     
  10. Fatty FatBastard

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    Fantastic, which brings me back to my other question. You chose to risk lives. People who procrastinate (in your example above) do not. Why again are they getting charged 3 times what you were for risking people's lives?
     
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    no... you paid the "fine", which i have no problems with, cuz you broke the law. my concern is really the "intent" of the state, to make money or to deter law breakers.
     
  12. ima_drummer2k

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    Maybe it's both.
     
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    IMO, a moving violation is much worse than a procrastinative violation. Up until a couple of years ago, the courts did, also. Then money came into play.
     
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    I really don't think you should go down this path (caling him a liar and acting as if you know more) with Sam-I-Am.
     
  15. Ziggy

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    If the law is so important why not create a program where the state can get into contact with soon to be violators. This way the crime is prevented? It would let police worry about more important things. I am just kidding. I know why they wont implement that kind of task force.

    Bottom line for me is if I was sitting in a jury and the defendant is charged an obscene amount of money for forgetting to send in a paper (it happens, we are human) then I would agree he is guilty. But I would choose not to convict the guy because its simply not fair. Accidents happen, breaking the law was never their intent. I would cut them a break and stick it to the officer and judge for wasting our time with a ridiculous ticket all the while a child molesters case is probably being reset for a later date...
     
  16. Rocket G

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    Oh, and if your insurance expired and you're still driving around, then F YOU!

    Seriously, go f yourself.

    I cannot count the number of times I've seen cases on uninsured jackasses hitting things, causing injury & death, and not having anything in place to make the aggrieved whole again.

    If you cannot afford insurance do not drive. If you cannot remember to renew it, you sir are an idiot and should not drive.

    You should be in jail for driving without insurance - you are getting off easy being harassed by the state for "paper" and fines

    And those trying to relate this to speed traps. Wow.

    Thanks again for reminding me how selfish and dense some people can really be.
     
  17. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    Fatty, don't you know it is unamerican to question any governmet policies or laws? I can't believe you would even think about questioning this, you are a criminal and should be punished to the maximum extent of the law. It's a LAW for a reason, you must follow all of them! No questions asked. Laws are infallible and if you break them you are a criminal, no "if" "and" or "jury" about it.

    If you question any of the laws of the great state of Texas or the United States, you are a criminal and the terrorist win. How in the hell do you think this country was founded huh? You shame our forefathers sir. OBEY.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Rocket G

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    And you are free to do so if you get on a jury, but seeing as how you pretty much think that you should be able to get away scot free for speeding, I doubt that you are the kind to do your civic duty and actually serve on a jury.

    And wtf should the state have to burden the responsibility of notifying you as to when your licenses, etc run out? YOU applied for them. YOU need them. YOU should keep up with them.

    Is it that hard to look at your license or insurance and see if the date to renew is coming up?

    If it has been suspended, is it hard to call in and ask: Is my license valid?

    If they say no, is it hard to ask: How much $$$ and by when do I need to send in to clear it?

    That's it! If you can't afford the time or $ to do that, you have no business driving! Hell, if you can't even manage that, I question your ability to function as an adult.

    WTF did so many people turn into whiny emo turds? Blame everyone else for my issues! Woe is me!
     
  19. MR. MEOWGI

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    Well in my case there were no other cars around (the cop car was 50 yards away) and I rolled through not making a complete stop. So I wouldn't say I risked any lives even though I broke the law. But I see what you are trying to say.

    Maybe it is unfair. But just own up to getting yourself into this mess and people here might feel for you a little more. The bottom line is that you are only the victim of yourself.
     
  20. Rocket G

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    Nice overreaction.

    It isn't like Fatty or the other whiners are "challenging" some morally challenged statute.

    Not like he was thrown in Guantanamo and raped with a broom & is fighting the Homeland Security laws.

    He and/or his lawyer screwed the pooch on this. The state imposed an initial fine and a penalty for non-compliance. Yeah, it's selective. They chose to do it for this offense and not for others. So? DWOL or DWSL is more serious than simply speeding. It means you got caught once for an offense serious enough to have your license suspended or revoked! WTF is wrong with making people pay an extra fee on top of it?



    Driving is not some God-given right. You have to meet certain qualifications to do so. Once you do, you have to maintain your qualifications as to licensing & insurance. If you prove yourself incapable of those simple tasks, what business do you have driving?
     

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