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Survey: What Bothers Americans About The Federal Tax System?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's not a theory and it never gets off to a good start because, just like with the Carrier plant fiasco, company's are looking to capitalize on the publicity.

    In reality it's scraps at the table.

    AT&T gives $20 million in bonuses and it's a good story but then they should probably hear that AT&T is saving a billion dollars a year in taxes. So what's $200 million when you're saving a billion dollars a year and what's the effect on government services? The principle of Republican economic governance is to make the easy decision which people are happy with in the short run that turns into a disaster in the long run when its effects are finally felt. That's what Reagan did. That's what Bush did and that's now what Trump is doing. How many times do we have to go through this stupidity before some of you learn the lesson?
     
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  2. crash5179

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    I don’t get the Reagan hate by some people. He is easily the best president of my lifetime and there is not a close second. This country was in serious jeopardy when he took office with entire neighborhoods being foreclosed on in part due to mortgage rates that were as high as 15%. Jimmy Carter is easily the single worst president of my life and is largely responsible for the Middle East being in the shape its in now.

    Supply side economics has proven to work, it’s not a theory. You should want the corporations to make tons of money, if they don’t you don’t. This tax plan is greatly different from the Reagan tax plan because of the corporate tax cut which is good for all of us. I don’t get the notion that there is something wrong with companies making billions in a capitalist society. Watch as the GDP takes off and people have more disposable income. I’m happy about that.

    This tax plan does nothing to hurt the poor. Instead, good paying jobs will be created giving the pore a chance to get a good job with decent binefits. We’ve heard so much about college graduates having to work at McDonalds over the last decade because good jobs are no longer available. Now some of those grads will get jobs at Boring, AT&T and Wells Fargo to name just a few.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    This survey really just shows how uninformed the masses have become as a result of really effective propaganda by the left.....which is something you are pimping out in your comments on the subject funny enough.

    The poor pay no income tax, but they think they do. Hell there was another survey that said 50% of Americans polled thought that their taxes would go up as a result of this tax cut.....when nearly every person in America's taxes will go down (or remain at 0). Props to the Democrats, their false narratives and other propaganda was REALLY effective in skewing the opinion of the ignorant masses.
     
  4. dobro1229

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    I don’t really see that many people really hating on Reagan. It’s more about pointing to the place in time where the middle class wealth started the trend of shrinking in wealth. The big issue most people are now seeing is the factual evidence that since the Reagan years, the wealth in this country has become more and more consolidated to corporations and the wealthy leading to what looks more like an Oligarchy than a free market capitalist society.

    Here’s the graph that many people are exposed to in some form now and can easily see that the main change here was Reagan era economics.

    https://b-i.forbesimg.com/louiswoodhill/files/2013/03/Income-Inequality-Chart-032713.jpg

    Reaganomics was good at the time just as FDR’s “Great Society”/New Deal was back in his day getting the country out of the Great Depression. However what is good then doesn’t mean it’s still not in need of change in order to maintain balance, fairness, and equality.

    The problem with positive economic reform now is “the people” no longer have trust in the government to set an equal playing field for a true capitalist market to thrive, and I can’t say I blame them too much when you look at how corrupt elected officials like Steve Minuchin, Wilbur Ross, and of course... Donald J Trump are.

    Do you continue to trust more consolidation of wealth through corporations and the billionaires that have their stake in them who do honestly care about the health of the consumer market, or do we trust a morally corrupt person like Trump and Wilbur Ross to introduce government led policy that breaks up near monopolized corporate consolidations to create a more fair system that is designed to bring more wealth back to the middle class... that middle class that is the strength of our economy and has been the past 70 years??

    In the end that’s what most people want, and think is good for our economic society, but at a very basic level, the tax plans structure is clearly designed to bring more wealth to the top which most people think is the problem to begin with. Even if they can’t really think of a great solution that isn’t leading to the inevitable.
     
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