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Surprise! "Temporary" Fast-Food Ban in South L.A. Becomes Permanent

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rtsy, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. Classic

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    Sure bud, phoney baloney. Don't have the resources? LOL. What a cop out. People have loads of time but few choose to use it to better and empower themselves. They'd rather sit and watch reality TV shows and play video games. There is a ton of information and many professionals available to help make people more informed when it comes to health and nutrition and in fact the entire wellness industry is based around the concept.

    I'm not sticking up for the companies out there trying to harm us by pushing their junk on us by any means. In fact my perception is that there are a ton of companies out there using us as guinea pigs from genetically modified foods to chemicals in cleaning products-all designed to make us sick and fuel the business of treatment err medicine. What I am advocating is people to wake up from the coma they're in and realize that they should take more of an interest in what the hell they're ingesting in their body among other things. You would have that be done through force and to a certain extent I agree but also think that people owe it to themselves to be educated.

    By the way, that last sentence in your post doesn't even make sense. What is wrong with educating oneself? Because of understanding the effects of a lot of key ingredients like formaldehyde used to preserve food at say McDonalds chicken nuggest, I refuse to eat there. Pretty simple concept.
     
  2. bingsha10

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    who are you arguing with? People are complaining about the substance of the ban, not the level it was passed on.

    this is bad policy no matter if it is passed on a federal, state, or local level. Again, no one is complaining that this was passed on a local level. They are complaining that it was passed at all on any level.
     
  3. krosfyah

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    Go back and read my first post.

    If republicans argue this is a bad policy then they are being hypocrites ...as usual.
     
  4. shastarocket

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    Ever worn a wrinkle-free shirt?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/11/your-money/11wrinkle.html

    Why didn't you take the time to research that instead of watching Jersey Shore?

    Your expectations are quite unrealistic
     
  5. Sooner423

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  6. Refman

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    Obesity has a lot of causes...the local Taco Bell is one of many.
    1. HFCS instead of sugar in sodas.
    2. Heavily processed food products being used in grocery store bought products because they are cheaper in manufacture.
    3. A completely sedentary lifestyle in our youth. Nobody plays outside anymore. They are all sitting in front of the Xbox for countless hours.
     
  7. Refman

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    Actually, since the left generally complains that the right tries to use the government to force their beliefs on people...any from the left that support this regulation are the ones being hypocritical.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What's not mentioned here is that this is only a ban of new "Stand-alone" fast food restaurants to be built within a 1/2 mile of existing fast food restaurants.

    The problem is not forcing people to eat healthy but that 72% of the restaurants and eating options there is fast food and there's very little options for other food. You can still build fast food if it's part of a strip mall or not stand-alone, or not super close to an existing fast food place.

    I don't think trying to inject diversity into a neighborhood is all that bad. Zoning laws are quite similar and doesn't seem like Republicans here are complaining about that. And I don't see this as a forcing values upon anyone but rather allowing people to have more choice.

    Just because people are poor doesn't mean that they can only eat unhealthy food and there should be other kinds of restaurants. No one is being forced to do anything or eat anything they don't want to.
     
  9. shastarocket

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    Don't be obtuse
     
  10. Sooner423

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    Skin contact and actual ingestion seem to be two completely different things. Is that obtuse?
     
  11. Stacy's knee

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    Who cares what people eat. As long as they keep inventing new drugs to make us live longer, does it really matter? ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  12. CrazyDave

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    This kind of interference in our lives is not ok with me. Regardless how many people are obese in this country or any arguments here as to why. Regulations on certain types of foods and industry? Sure. Telling me I can't open a business to sell cheeseburgers because it's for the greater good? uhh what?

    Then there's the "Nothing to worry about, it's only temporary" sales job on something, only to see it become permanent beyond anyone's control.
     
  13. theimpossibles1

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    Lol... Check again.
     
  14. JuanValdez

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    It's funny how fast someone can acquire a reputation. I'm sure my reaction to the story would be different if rtsy hadn't started it.

    I didn't want to read through 4 pages -- has anyone brought up that this ordinance is a lot like laws about how far a bar can be from a school, or having a dry county, or zoning certain areas for commercial/residential/industrial use?
     
  15. Rashmon

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    Too much outrage to discuss the rationale of policy making.
     
  16. Rocketman1981

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    Nanny-State here we come!!

    This is such nonsense. Either way the left and the right want to impose their own 'way of life' on us.

    There are not many places in the world where the poorest people in the country can afford to be obese. Its a good problem to have as technology has brought down the cost of food production so much and individual purchasing power has grown.

    Its about personal choice and it all goes back to government intervention into healthcare and 'everyone paying the price' for someone's actions.

    When people individually don't see the negative affect of their own behavior as their healthcare is 'covered', they'll act more recklessly.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    I have a little news for you. Health care cost isn't high only for those who have acted recklessly.

    I was an actor and professional dancer, who lead a very healthy lifestyle but had type 1 diabetes. It had nothing to do with lifestyle choices I made. You should understand that my health care choices along with those of countless others out there are high, but not because they chose an unhealthy way of life.
     
  18. krosfyah

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    Legislating morality is a relatively new complaint since the Bush era and further demonstrates their hypocracy.

    The conservatives have been been arguing for local/state power over federal power since the days on the Civil War claiming that the states should be able to decide for themselves if they want to keep slaves. Rick Perry only recently implied Texas should form it's own country. Republicans have been clamoring since the beginning of time to preserve political power at the local and state levels.

    ...yet here's an example of a local government imparting power and I bet every republican is going ape **** over this story.

    Apparently a few of ya'll libs going crazy too. ;)

    To me? It's a zoning question in California. yawn.
     
  19. glynch

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    Don't try to argue with a libertarian bot with facts about childhood obesity. They are nearly immune to facts, but just reply with slogans--"free to choose" "it's their choice"
     
  20. Refman

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    So now anybody who disagrees with you is a "bot?" Wow...you have really become quite a jackass.

    I could posit that you are a government bot because your answer to everything is to use the government to resolve it. I could...but it just isn't helpful. You should try it sometime.
     

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