I don't think it has been irretrievably derailed. I've made several posts about the nomination in this thread, and in the other one, as have several other members. Just keep posting about the topic.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ix7lQLplA_E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Interesting . . . . Rocket River
You have to give the turtle credit -- he's not exactly full of guile. You have his famous "one term president" goal, all other congressional business or will of the people be damned. And now he openly admits to putting the will of the NRA / gun lobbyists over constitutional responsibilities.
And you've got Democrats doing this guy's bidding right now, which is mind boggling. I wish that Democrats who are out there doing the work of the Republican establishment would think for a second on who they are actually supporting with their anti-Trump fervor. Whether Hillary defeats the Republicans or Trump drops agent orange on the entire party, the outcome will be a positive one as long as the Republican establishment goes down. If the Republican establishment gets their way and stays in power, NOTHING will change. The establiment will take any victory as a validation for their tactics. People are acting like the Republicans are this great party willing to work with the other side to get things done. They are not. They overtly refuse to work with Dems on most everything. This is what you anti-Trump Democrats are working to keep in place.
Mitch McConnell has got to be the epitome of everything that is wrong with our government. What a piece of ****.
Yertle is a paid advocate. He gets paid to get up and say whatever benefits his benefactors. He doesn't have to believe it, he doesn't care if it's true, reasonable or ethical, or even if it makes sense. You can show video of him saying one thing and refuting it in the next video like a total fool and he will keep right on doing it. It's shameless, despicable and it pays well
To me, it does not follow that, because some of us find The Turtle to be devoid of any principles beyond his paying masters, that we would then support someone who is, to us, horrible in a completely different and honestly much more dangerous way.
Supreme Court Hands Down First 4-To-4 Decision Since Antonin Scalia’s Death Obviously the only reasonable path forward is that the Supreme Court should postpone hearing any more cases because there's a new judge appointment imminent. It's like only 300 days away. What's the point of continuing to do your job when there's an imminent decision on the horizon? That's not democracy. The people should have a voice.
I couldn't disagree more. That would be asking one branch of our government to shut down and cease working simply because one the the other branches refuses to do their job. That is the opposite of what the Founding Fathers intended.
I thought they did . . in 2008 and 2012 If you give 2 weeks notice. . .you don't get 2 weeks to not work . . . you do your job .. . . . The Job is from DAY 1 until The Last day so The President's Job did not stop . . it is not over. . . .he does his job until the next president is in place. One of his jobs is to put someone up for supreme court Justice Rocket River The idea of giving the SCOTUS a fricking year off is crazy to me! will they not get PAID??
Point taken, Deckard. ...but I kinda think g1184 was sort-of tongue-in-cheek with his comment. As serious as all this is, it's still pretty damn funny if you think about it...
The job of the senate isn't to just rubber stamp anyone the president nominates....I think that point has been missed by a lot of people. If they don't like his nominee for any reason, it's their job to not allow it. Now you might not like the way they do their job, but it's factually inaccurate to say they aren't doing it simply because a SCOTUS nominee gets pigeon-holed.
Bull ****. Absolute bull ****. The Senate, under McConnell, will not hold hearings on a President's nomination to the Supreme Court for the first time in history. The person who doesn't get what a huge deal that is is you. Wrap your head around that. At least make the attempt. That you cannot see beyond your little partisan world just how reckless an act McConnell is taking, how radical it is, makes you look either uneducated or an idiot, with all due respect.
That's not "Bull ****"....it seems like you just don't know how the Senate works, and that's fine. The president made this nomination, which was his right, knowing fully well that it wouldn't be approved.....and here you are whining about it not being approved. It's funny that you think I'm being partisan about this despite the fact that party affiliation has nothing to do with it, but since partisanship is likely all you know, of course you'd assume that someone that disagrees with you was influenced by it. Deciding not to move forward on a SCOTUS nominee that they don't agree with isn't "reckless", it's the job of the Senate. They wouldn't require the consent of the Senate to approve nominees if they just wanted a rubber stamp on anyone the president chooses. You certainly aren't alone in misunderstanding that basic point, but it doesn't make you any less wrong.
You do realize that the Senate has more than one way of rejecting things right? They don't vote on every bill either. I know, I just blew your mind.
Basically he's not doing what they want him to do, thus they spout hyperbole about how "wrong" it is and how "reckless" it is despite the fact that he's just doing his job and other (all other) Senate Majority Leaders in the past have regularly withheld things from getting a vote when it wasn't something they agreed with......you know, their job.
