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Support for repealing Obamacare plunges to an all time low.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Raven, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Cushy government benefits.
     
  2. giddyup

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    Two kids-- who are covered on their mother's healthcare plan. Just to cover dependents was almost $450 so I don't think we'll be moving them!
     
  3. Major

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    So it was $450 for your wife and about $200 for each kid? That doesn't seem that out of line for a good healthcare plan. I don't know how NC compares to Texas, but I pay $250 for myself for a fairly basic individual plan with a $3500 deductible.

    On a side note, if your government would accept a ton of free federal money for Medicaid expansion in your state, it would likely drive premiums down a decent amount. That's an easy choice available to your state being denied for no reason other that politics.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    It sounds like a school teacher makes so much money they could support a family of four with a single income? Wow, underpaid my ass.
     
  5. sammy

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    This.

    Why the hell do we have to pay for his family's healthcare? You don't like the salaries or benefits of working at a public school? Don't take the job. Nobody is forcing you to do anything.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    He'll probably tell you about the thousands of dollars he spends on pencils an classroom decorations...
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    And he would be right, and it would be unfair that he would have to do that.

    But you just keep going with the mentality that teachers are the enemy
     
  8. Nook

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    Teachers are not the enemy, or at least should not be. Much of the backlash against teachers was a result of the constant call that teachers are underpaid and under appreciated. I know that where I live there is a waiting list for people wanting to teach, willing to wait to work for the pay and benefits offered.

    Further, teacher unions have not always cast teachers in the best light.
     
  9. giddyup

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    You continue to be an ______. I'll relay your thoughts to my colleague who was in tears at this revelation. She lost her husband earlier this summer and is trying to live on a grand teacher's income and raise two children. She's only balking at the $420 or so.

    I'll be sure and let her know that you convey your ignorance to her... :mad:
     
  10. mc mark

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    did someone say 420?
     
  11. Nook

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    I find it hilarious that you expect empathy for your condition and the condition of your colleague, yet you have shown little or no empathy for those that have less than you.

    To be frank, you can **** off.
     
  12. giddyup

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    Did I say anything of the sort?? No.

    I'm not expecting a free ride. I'm not even personally complaining about the high cost because it doesn't even affect me... but I do have empathy for my colleagues-- one of whom is a new widow.

    BTW, we are a charter school and, as I understand it, the board pays Employee healthcare which means that I'm just like any other worker out there so I'm not even sucking of the government teat.

    The problem was created by short-sighted thinking. The board was willing to buy us a better health plan than the state plan but the repercussion is that any healthcare cost that we have to pick up for dependents is likewise more expensive to us.

    Supposedly they have fixed it and are opting for a different plan.
     
  13. giddyup

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    It's not my condition because I am not involved in any of the elective stuff. Nevertheless I can have empathy for those around me.

    Who the hell are you to say that I have no empathy for those around me with less? Go away and take your stinking attitude. You know nothing.

    Oh yeah: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=198916
     
  14. giddyup

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    I did. That's the cost for my newly-widowed colleague to cover her children. The Full Family coverage (spouse and kids) was $896.
     
  15. Nook

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    Who am I to say you have no empathy? I have read your posts on here for years, everyone has and it is clear how you feel about the poor and those looking for either help or someone to listen to their plight. However, when it is you or someone you like or know then we are supposed to feel bad or have empathy? Guess what, those other people you judge and dismiss are not that different than you.

    So take your pity party elsewhere.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm definitely too biased to offer a fair response. I will say that even before I was a teacher, I thought they were underpaid. I believe so now more than ever.

    There is a waiting list for people to be teachers here as well.
     
  17. giddyup

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    If you are not too lazy, fish up one post that substantiates your smear. Thanks in advance... or are you just full of hot air and a sad imagination?

    Pity party? I said that it doesn't even affect me. I posted this because I am in favor of some kind of nationalized health plan. I cited the numbers because they are but one indication why we need something. The other main reason being that due to the nature of our employee-sponsored health plans, some people are locked out due to cost and/or underwriting challenges.

    See how much you think you know but don't actually know, Archie Bunker?
     
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  18. Bandwagoner

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    Housing, food/clothes, transportation (one car), and health care are the essentials. From your numbers, a teacher could easily support a family of four and provide health care. You thinking it should be cheaper gets very little sympathy.

    por ejemplo:
     
  19. Major

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    If this is her only income source, then for a family of 3 with that income, she would likely qualify for subsidies through Obamacare that would substantially drop the cost, though I'm not sure how that works if she's covered by an employer plan and her kids are not. If she got her own health care, she could get a bronze plan for her entire family for approximately $300 per month, assuming $54k in income (based on $900 being 20% of her monthly salary):

    http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

    I'm pretty sure that's less than whatever it would have been a year ago.
     
  20. giddyup

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    Por ejemplo?

    major paying $250/montb with no dependents and this widow paying $420 per month raising two kids... and you think those circumstances are comparable? :eek:

    It's simple math, really. The one with more "burden" is paying more. That is no comparable.
     

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