Elite dribble seperation is one of the most important traits for superstar wings/backcourt players. It collapses defenses, generates open teammates and clean looks for yourself.
Lol not in WB case......because he is such a lower IQ player and below average defender, it does not make much difference. Eye candy player. Also I would not put WB in a sentence with Green if you really are a stan because most of us are traumatized by having Russ. Russ best traits to me personally are still his tenacity and never giving up.
That’s why @Bobbythegreat and @roslolian takes on this is so stupid. They think you can just launch shots in game without accountability to teammates or coaches. This goes back to high school. Coaches tell you to shoot when you’re open for shot or have the lane and look at what defenses give you. Players shoot because they think they have the shot. Obviously players don’t always make their shots but there’s a difference between a “quality” shot and “bad” shot. Usually Players that play selfishly or take bad shots don’t get as much minutes or they are traded etc. and depends on what else they bring to the table like defense or passing or energy etc. This is all part of coaches’ decision making. And FGA is about opportunity, ability, overall team performance, and chance. And Per 36 and per 100 are both normalizing tools and not definitive metrics to use alone and more information is needed to evaluate players. Per 100 shows us scoring per 100 possessions based on the rate they score per possession but this includes turnovers. This affects the main ball handlers and guys who go to the paint a lot who turnover a lot and that’s why spot up shooters like Brooks numbers per 100 isn’t worse than it should be because they aren’t handling as much. That’s why you use these as indicators but with caution and other factors like how they score and deeper analysis is needed. But to say that all players need is higher FGA to score 20 shows a lack of understanding of both the game and the available metrics. It’s just stupid and those two idiots should get new clutchfans accounts.
I think professional coaches know a thing or 2 more about their players’ abilities than @Bobbythegreat lmao.
What an odd appeal to authority given that the Rockets just got rid of Silas and Dusty Baker is a thing...
What a odd appeal to one’s own amateur knowledge of coaching professional basketball. It’s fun fuc$ing with u dude. U dumb AF and this is fun for me
With the decline of Green, it's still looks to be Sengun and Amen, with Cam and Bari knocking on the door. The future is still bright.
I don’t feel like Green has declined. He just hasn’t improved much. At least he tries on defense and knows he won’t play if he doesn’t. I’m keep faith that if he just bulks up, he will be a far better player.
As Amen, JGreen and Jabari were voted more than Alp-just last month, not 2 years ago- it's very discouraging for the basketball literacy about certain folks around. Sometimes people are truly amazing.
It's not surprising. People are going based off of decades of data and players like Sengun have usually been fringe All Star types at best. Arvydas, Gasol Brothers, and Divac. What has changed lately is the reliance on the 3 pointer and these centers being the hub of that. It's much easier for a back to the basket center to kick out to a 3 point shooter than it is for a guard to penetrate and do the same. Compound that with Sengun now having grown up watching Jokic, Harden, Manu and Doncic and you're getting a new age of hybrid centers that have never existed before.
When the first Euros came there was skepticism in Tony Parker's case.....I think big guys like Dirk and Pau broke it down.... Dirk won MVP and Pau Gasol was arguably on a FMVP level.. They figured out how to volume score.
I voted Green and Sengun. Unfortunately Greens lack of improvement/regression this season has lowered his ceiling significantly, to maybe a De'Angelo Russel type player. I don't see any other potential superstars on the Rockets currently outside of Sengun. Cam and maybe Jabari could be a Jaylen Brown type "super role" player.
I wasn't convinced Alpi had superstar potential during the offseason--I thought he might not be able to maintain his efficiency on higher usage and as a focal point for opposing defenses. I voted for Amen on the basis of his tools and IQ. Jury is still out on that one, he will obviously have to become a much better shooter, but I still think he has that potential. I was wrong about Sengun. He is already arguably a top 20 player and has flashed superstar-level ability to take over games multiple times this season. He clearly has superstar upside, and he's not far off. Still don't think Jabari, Tari, or Green will ever be superstars. Maybe all-stars (probably not for Green though at this point). Cam, I don't know. I think his lack of playmaking ability may hold him back from reaching true top 5-7 player status. But he is definitely showing he has the ceiling of a top scorer, so All-NBA could certainly be in the cards down the road.
Other than Hakeem and maybe offensive superstar Harden I have not encountered one. Yao and Mac were fringe superstars, Stevie was a minor All Star, Chris Paul All Star, Artest borderline All Star etc.
