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Supermajority for GOP in Texas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    what was obama supposed to say to change this situation? I don't know if you live in TX or not after this idioic post, but conservatives in this state don't care about the Healtcare Bill or the Stimulus.

    Moderates barely care, I don't know what its gonna take to get that through your thick skull.
     
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  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    yeah, he lost the state pretty handily in 2008 and i don't see why anyone would think that texas would be a state to buck his unpopularity trend.
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    For what it's worth I don't think this supermajority changes a thing.
     
  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    nope. this state is ****ed regardless.
     
  5. weslinder

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    I graduated from Nederland High School, and have lived all over Southeast Texas. I live in the Groves now.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    LOL, I work in LA, I'll just build a 100 miles east in the desert.
     
  7. jo mama

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    whats so "conservative" about forced vaccinations for all 12 year old girls (vaccines made by a company that his former chief of staff was a lobbyist for), foreign own toll roads (again, a former perry aid was a lobbyist for cintra), eminent domain, seizing private property for said toll roads, 20 billion dollar budget deficits, steroid testing in high schools, tanning-bed laws and increased business taxes?
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    :grin:

    sorry that you're in the extreme minority in our great state. There's fabulous living in Oklahoma or Louisiana if you'd like to leave us, chap!
     
  9. da Whopper

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    Over the last ten years California has lost 1.5 millions residents while Texas has gained 800,000. Guess that must be Enron's faut.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Wait just a minute. You can't pin this all on Enron. You forgot about the lack of FLAT LAND in Kalifornia!!!

    BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    While people are beating up on California lets not forget that for most of the last 20 years California has been governed by Republican governors, although moderate Republicans. Also lets not forget that much of California problems have been caused by such liberal ideas as cutting taxes and deregulation.

    The problems with California span both liberal and conservative ideologies but in my opinion really come down politically to a problem with direct democracy and an object lesson of why the Founders made this country a representative republic and not a direct democracy.

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  12. mc mark

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    Aren't you worried about all those godless librals moving to Texas?
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    That's mostly it. In addition to the direct democracy problem, there was a huge problem that any tax increase or budget item required a 2/3 vote to pass. So when there are problems almost nothing can be done to remedy them.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    bigtexxx showing he knows as little about California as he does about politics in general.
     
  15. mc mark

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    Like President Obama once said, some people just take pride in their ignorance.
     
  16. rimrocker

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    OK boys, you are so ridiculous that I'm forced to quote myself.

    See above. First, note the sentence mentioning Enron does not say it's the only reason, merely the one you can point out and say that it was the first in a series of things that brought California to where it is today.

    Second, to suggest that Enron was just a bunch of traders taking advantage of a situation is incredible. They illegally manipulated the market. There are Enron people on tape bragging about how much money they were stealing. They literally use that word. There are Enron people on tape getting power plants to go down for no reason so they could make illegal deals. It was a conspiracy and it is obvious to those who are paying attention that it would not have happened without Enron. Watch that documentary about Enron and you see they were manipulating the system before that summer and gradually got bolder with their criminal activity. Here's an Enron guy talking to guy at a plant...

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    Similarly, an average reader could ascertain in my quoted post that geography is not the sole determinant for housing prices, but merely a large one. The geography of California limits and restricts urban growth and determines where transportation networks will be built. If you look at satellite images of any big Texas city, it is pretty much the same. Here's Houston...

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    It's more or less a big circle just like SA, and Austin. DFW is a big oval.

    Here's San Francisco...

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    First, there's an ocean and a bay. Second, note the green and orange colors means big hills/mountains. The gray/white is development.

    Here's LA...

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    Even though this is the poster child for sprawl, you can easily see how geography affects the sprawl and limits transportation corridors. Oh, and there's an ocean. Same with San Diego, except the mountains are even closer to the city.

    Couple geography with the human factors... jobs, schools, a desire to live in nice places and a financial system run amok with no oversight and you get the California housing bubble, which, incidentally, affects even Texans.

    If you can't see that the geography has an influence on housing prices and it is a big reason why the costs are so much lower in TX than they are in CA, then you are being intentionally ignorant.
     
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    Peña and Ritter are cowards. They're afraid of a fight.
     
  18. Commodore

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    Does it affect redistricting?
     
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    I grew up in Lumberton, married a Nederland girl and have lived here for about 20 years.
     

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