yeah I think thats gotta be the biggest embarassing thing about this both senators endorse Obama and he stil gets killed.
very interesting things to watch for.....repubs are a mess right now, but you know they will put on a untied front if it's Clinton....a lot of people I talk to don't like any of GOP candidates including McCain, but they really don't want Hillary.....gonna be interesting to see where the big time conservative voices turn to....maybe McCain brings on a conservative running mate.....this is all very fun to watch.
Actually before the endorsements Obama was at 22% in MASS. The fact that the Senators can gain him 18% is pretty amazing. Or course all the local Democratic officials, and machines were big time behind Clinton. I think the endorsements probably saved Obama about 15 delegates in MASS, and a lot of national recognition. The Kennedy endorsement in particular may have helped Obama with Hispanics in a number of other states. Obama is probably still behind in that demographic, but made some inroads their as well.
UPDATED with states's delagates e/t they are proportional in the Democratic primary, so far, per cnn: Obama wins Alabama 60 delagates Delaware 23 delagates Georgia 103 delagates Illinois 185 delagates North Dakota 21 delagates Connecticut 61 delagates Kansas 40 delagates Minnesota 85 delagates Obama leads Idaho (75-25 w/22% reporting) 23 delagates Colorado (66-33 w/9% reporting) 70 delagates Clinton wins Arkansas 47 delagates Massechusetts 121 delagates New Jersey 127 delagates New York 280 delagates Oklahoma 47 delagatges Tennessee 85 delagates Clinton leads Missouri (53-44 w/ 60% reporting) 88 delagates Arizona (50-39) w/23% reporting) 67 delagates Too early California 440 delagates New Mexico 38 delagates Utah 29 delagates
Maybe you should be posting in the Superbowl GF thread. That guy sounds like he needs someone to tell him the sun will be out tomorrow I'm not ragging on you, just that you keep casting sunshine on my doom and gloom on Obama.
Not always. I have no problem saying that Obama underperformed in MO. It's just that Obama's own campaign didn't expect to win MASS, and were saying as soon as they got the Kennedy endorsement that it meant more nationally than it did to MASS. The fact that the endorsements gained some candidates from MASS that would have been lost without the endorsements it just doesn't seem to bad there. Looking at the undecideds in all the polls neither candidate had a definite lead in any of the states. And on top of all that, I freely admit to being both biased and an optimist.
Hillary is pulling away in the futures markets. It's now 60% likely that she will be the democratic nomination, versus 40% for Ba'raq. This was showing about 50/50 this morning. Big move for one day. Old Hellafat is doing better than anticipated...
same here I'm biased as hell lol you know I didnt even like the Clintons until she became NY's senator. i actually would feel comfortable voting for her as President. I'm still trying to figure out why Maria Shriver's endorsement of Obama got such national airtime though...
Thanks for posting those, I was wondering that. That was my suspicion as well in regards to the general trend for tonight, but with the media you wouldn't know that...
You're either spinning or just recently took a real interest in politics and think you have become an expert. Using Giuliani is a good example of that. Giuliani had no infrastructural support and obviously had huge ideological differences with the party on social issues. Clinton and Obama obviously have similar views on most issues in the Democratic party. Oh, and Judith Nathan wasn't president. When you look at exit polling you will find that the Clinton's best support comes from lower income, less educated voters, and Hispanics. People with 40-50 hour work weeks, children to take care of, etc. They don't/can't spend a lot of time studying this race. They have not had candidates campaigning in their towns, everyday, because of the time constraints of a national primary. These people have not been following cable news and internet blogs everyday, where Obama's "hype" has been growing in recent weeks, enough to make people like you absurdly believe that somehow Obama has reached the same level as Clinton. They know the Clinton name. These are also the people that the Clintons' various machines (led by mayors like Menino and Villaraigosa) can get out today and gives them an advantage. They have been building the groundwork for this run since 2000. What do you think Terry McAuliffe was doing? If you don't understand this, then you "don't know politics."
In other words Obama is the pick if you're educated and has a MBA Clinton is the pick if you don't speak English or is trailer trash
Uhhh.. it was 70/30 a week ago, 50/50 this morning, 60/40 favoring Obama about 3 hours ago, and 60/40 favoring Clinton now. The futures market doesn't know any more than anyone else. They jump on the exit polls just as much as anyone. There's simply no "smart money" in in-trade, just a bunch of random gamblers who are reading the same polls as everyone else.
LMFAO, oh god texx, not the futures markets again. Haven't you had enough? The Cat - stop posting in this thread - it's not about you man. Start your own or something.
incorrect - it's not a "bunch" of random gamblers, rather it is pitifully small amount playing for microscopic stakes.
