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Super Tuesday Scenarios

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Feb 2, 2008.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    The returns in MN have Obama winning at 60% to Clinton's 34%. Pretty amazing considering last week a poll had Clinton leading by 7%. In the meantime for the Republicans in MN Romney has now taken the lead but that race is still far from being called.
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    uhhhh....it wasn't 70/30 a week ago. Bottom line is that Hellfat is pulling away and will likely take Cali. Of course they jump on exit polls...it's additional information that has entered the market. You prove no point by saying that. Sorry the news isn't better for you Ba'raq fluffers
     
  3. The Cat

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    What have I said that's about me? I've discussed the results tonight, which would seem to be on topic with a Super Tuesday thread. Can you please show me where I've strayed from that?
     
  4. The Cat

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    You're the one that's spinning. The reach of media coverage these days is tremendous, and to act as though Obama is a relative unknown is silly. You're absolutely right that lower income voters favor Clinton, but what you're saying about them "not following news" relative to others is a hypothesis. Here's another hypothesis, and a more likely one, imo: Clinton is perceived by most Democrats as better for the economy. To lower income voters, the state of the economy is the top concern, and that's why they're drawn to Clinton and why they're likely to continue to be drawn to Clinton.
     
  5. JonBainAramsey

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    do any of yall know if the delagates in the democratic primaries are divided exactly proportionally to the vote. Like, if a state has 100 delagates, and Obama has 55 percent of the vote, does he get 55 delagates?
     
  6. Achilleus

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    I support Barack Obama. You support Hillary Clinton. We'll leave it at that.
     
  7. The Cat

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    Obama closing in Missouri... it's down to 50-47 with only a 20,000 vote difference (was 60,000+ not very long ago) with 84 percent of precincts in. Even if he loses, it's not going to be quite the downer of a loss that it seemed.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    Samf.......wait for it.....wait for it.....WHERE ARE THE CELL PHONE VOTERS???!?!?!?111///eleven!!11?/forwardslash
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    AZ goes to Hillary.

    MO is looking closer than before. Right now it's Hillary 50% Obama 47%. He's closed the gap from the earlier results.

    The 1% returns in CA show Hillary up by about 20 points.

    Of course CA had the early voting, and so a lot of that comes before Obama had his surge. He had a lot of ground to make up from that early voting.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when all is said and done. Hillary has won 7 states, and Obama has won 10 so far.

    But with the way delegates are handed out that doesn't mean all that much.
     
  10. JonBainAramsey

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    when will they have an accurate delagate count for each state's primary results?
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    Just go over to realclearpolitics and add them up. Dems don't do winner take all
     
  12. SamFisher

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    That's our texxx, a landline using, Jay Leno-watching member of the avant-garde.
     
  13. mc mark

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    It's called democracy.

    try it
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Both are democratic.
     
  15. Major

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    It will take a while to get final counts. The Dems do it by congressional district - but votes are being reported by county. So the states each have to go back and tally the votes by district and figure it all out. You probably will have estimates late tonight or tomorrow, but it will probably take at least a day or two to get the official breakdowns.

    Obama's made up huge ground in Missouri, which is really important. He needs to not get blown out in California. The Obama people seem to think they will more or less break even in delegates by dominating the small states like Kansas, Idaho, etc. We'll see. If that happens, it's all he needed today (supposedly). The February calendar is supposed to favor him and then Texas/Ohio will be huge.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Just saw on MSNBC that they are just guessing about current delegates, but after talking to both campaigns, and the polls, the estimates show:

    Obama as of now wins about 596 delegates

    Hillary wins about 543 delates
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    I think you have that backwards
     
  18. Major

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    Nope - most of the estimates have Obama up right now in delegates. It would go down after AZ/CA finish up to make them mostly even. At least, that seems to be the standard projection.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    Futures markets really opening up in California...now predicting Hellafat at 88%, Ba'raq at 12%. Not looking good for the radical Muslim choice
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    Nope. Wrong again. You have to include the delegates that were decided before today. My quick calcs (taken from realclearpolitics and doing a sumproduct) have Hellafat up by about 40 delegates
     

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