[Sunday Times]Tibetan monks beaten as police halt dissent

So when are you going to start importing African slaves? We did that too. I mean we know that China has never gotten to invade practically anything, it's SOOOOOO unfair that China has never been allowed to ever be a territorial expansionist, EVER - with the exception of the MILLIONS of acres of land in Xinjiang, Gansu, Yunnan, Mongolia, Manchuria etc etc etc that were not originally Han Chinese. And they've never had the benefit of slaves either. That would really make Chinese hip-hop a lot more palatable.

But if you hate paying so much for Tibet (by "paying for tibet", btw, you know that means your government is subsidizing the building of ugly KTV joints and crappy hotels for visiting domestic tourists, chinese owned and managed (with tibetans cleaning the toilets - LUCKY TIBETANS!!!) --- then leave them alone.

 

America dropped an atomic bomb not once but twice.

China should totally get their shot to do that. Hey, why not start with those pesky Buddhists!!! That'll show 'em!!!

 

nobody is afraid to criticize the government. there are things i don't agree with. environment isn't doing good. but, that's for us to say, not for you to say. i absolutely hate it when people have no idea what's going on in china, criticize china for things that are completely baseless. everyone is using what they see/hear on the news/internet as ground to criticize. i mean, sure, a little bit is ok. but all of yall doing is just annoying the hell out of us. sure, duh, we know there are works need to be done. but who da hell wanna hear it from yall. when yall have more problems. if yall are completely the greatest perfect government/society, then sure. we'll listen, but yall aint even close.

 

tons of chinese are buddhists. it has nothing to do with religion in tibet.

 

No, this is the United States of America - it is for us to say whatever we think. See US Const, Amdt. I.

But anyway, you're telling me that no "domestic" politcal matter can be commented on from without the jurisdiction? So - let's say Holocaust - Germany masscres its Jewish population - you can't say anything about it because you're not German?

 

wrong.

freedom = say anything anywhere anytime anyone

All we have to see
Is that I don't belong to you
And you don't belong to me yea yea
Freedom,
Freedom,
Freedom
You've gotta give for what you take
Freedom,
Freedom,
Freedom
You've gotta give for what you take

 

isn't that why there is a jewish state now? so all of them can live together and no one can tell them what to do? and they can all live happy. besides, nazis are evil. same with japanese in WWII. china is not evil.

 

name some bad events in chinese history.

Yi going to Milwaukee doesn't count.

 

interesting dialogue going on here.

I can empathize with my fellow Chinese posters here. There is certainly an anti-China feeling in a lot of Western media. Human rights condemnations, etc. are often hypocritical and very patronizing and condescending when the history of Western aggression towards China (and Africa, Souther America, North America, et. al.) is also considered. Now that China is a rising power, I can certainly understand an "F-U" kind of attitude.

Not saying its all right and all but I believe it is understandable.

 

Just because in history people have done bad things doesn't mean we should all shut up and ignore it when other people do bad things.

No one is anti-Chinese. We're just anti-chinese gov't.

sound familiar? Sounds like the palestinians eh?

 

NewYorker,

people raised as the Borg, don't understand Star Fleet.

they don't understand that James T Kirk would disobey Star Fleet or that Spock would sacrifice himself "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

Why did they go back to the Genesis planet?
There's NO GOVERNMENT THERE

 

I'm a pretty forgiving kind of guy, but if we loose all that is Tibet because of the Chinese govenment, I will personally make it my mission to fight Tibets fight.

We fricken let the taliban destroy those beautiful icons. We, as a world people should NEVER allow that to happen again, under any circumstance.

The desctruction of a culture is a TERRIBLE thing. Just terrible and unforgivable.

 

You didn't answer the question.

As a non-German citizen in 1940's do you have the right to criticize Germany for murdering German jews, yes or no.

 

it doesn't work that way. to chinese, if you are against the government, regardless what the political spectrum it's in, it sure feels like anti-chinese. look, we don't give a crap what political system is in china. but if you mess with us, then you've crossed the line.

also, a lot of history will repeat itself. a lot of TERRIBLE history will repeat itself. there is no way around it. it's human nature ok. of course, i would prefer the ideal world that everyone is happy, free, rich, blah blah blah. it aint gonna happen, deal with it.

 

YES of course. but answer this, is china killing all tibetans? the answer is, HELL NO.

 

American is destroying cultures around the world. that's the difference? if everyone want to keep culture diversity, then don't travel, don't live in US. the trend is happening, the world will emerge into a few culture hubs. any effort trying to prevent it, will be wasted.

 

Allright but you've already undercut your earlier implication that citizens of one jurisdiction can't criticize "internal affairs" of other jurisdictions - you just draw the line in a different place.

 

i think you'd find many of the people who support the tibetan cause to also be highly admirable of chinese culture. I for one would love to travel China and see the cities and explore the country side. But that doesn't mean I think what they are doing in Tibet is ok. It's not. It's wrong.

That doesn't mean what the U.S. has done in the past is right. It doesn't mean what we do now is right. But the idea that we can only stand against what happens in our country or what our gov't is simply not true.

The world has taught us that we are all humans, and we can defend the rights of any other human, whether they are 12 feet away or 12,000 miles away.

If you take that as being anti-Chinese, that's in you, it's not real, it's your interpretation of it.

 

Fisher!
they don't understand the moral meaning of the Wrath of Khan,
why the hell do you think they understand the Search for Spock?

 

With all due respect, what a load of crap.




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