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[Sun-Times] Ban sale of Grand Theft Auto, other violent video games, state rep says

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    "With carjackings rising, Rep. Marcus Evans wants to prohibit the sale of violent video games promoting criminal activity":

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2...o-games-carjackings-evans-operation-safe-pump

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    With carjackings on the rise in Chicago and elsewhere, a South Side Democratic state representative has introduced a bill that would ban the sale of Grand Theft Auto and other violent video games.

    Rep. Marcus Evans Jr. wants to amend a 2012 law preventing some video games from being sold to minors. Friday, he filed HB3531, which would amend that law to ban the sale to anyone of video games depicting “psychological harm,” including “motor vehicle theft with a driver or passenger present.”

    Evans had been contacted in January by Early Walker, who started Operation Safe Pump to prevent carjackings at gas stations and shopping centers. Safe Pump positions security guards from the Kates Detective and Security Agency in areas with high numbers of carjackings.

    “The bill would prohibit the sale of some of these games that promote the activities that we’re suffering from in our communities.” Evans said.

    Walker said he reached out to several state legislators to ban the video game after noticing similarities in local incidents of carjackings and actions players can make in the video game.

    “I feel like this game has become a huge issue in this spectrum,” Walker said. “When you compare the two, you see harsh similarities as it relates to these carjackings.”

    Besides addressing carjacking, the bill also changes the definition of a “violent video game” to one in which players “control a character within the video game that is encouraged to perpetuate human-on-human violence in which the player kills or otherwise causes serious physical or psychological harm to another human or an animal.”
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  2. tinman

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    Yes because Video Games created crime.

    you see a bunch of idiots putting Gorilla Glue in the hair, but you never see people jumping on mushrooms or trying to do spinning bird kicks on each other right?
    @Ziggy
     
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    Seems like a dude who would tackle silly pet projects rather than tackle root issues.
     
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    I'm waiting for people on horses to commit crime so these idiots can blame Red Dead Redemption
     
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    In Massachusetts, one of the poorest towns, Lawrence, has also one of the highest vehicle theft rates in the nation.

    I'm pretty confident that the percentage of kids who play gta in Lawrence is the same as the percentage of kids who play gta is a town like Andover(wealthy majority white suburb) where vehicle theft rates are some of the lowest in the nation.

    So ya, video game have no influence. In fact well off kids in the suburbs probably have more time on their hands to play video games than poor kids.
     
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    if anything video games are a positive influence. If you have video games then that’s time you’re spending not committing crimes (in reality lol )
     
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    A. Carjacking is a problem.

    B. We must do something to address the problem.

    C. Banning video games is something.

    Logic totally checks out.
     
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    Well, if he feels that way, then that's a good enough reason to impose any sort of measure to end free speech. He has my vote!
     
  10. KingCheetah

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    It's been almost 8 years since they released a GTA game.
     
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    the poor kids probably don't have OLEDs
    @Ziggy
     
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    Video games can have a negative influence on people too. I don't think we have to pretend it is one way or the other. Speaking as someone who's spent many, many hours playing multiple GTA games.
     
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    It can be a bad influence in terms of being a time waster that limits productivity but that's any form of entertainment really. Some people are addicted to watching everything on Netflix.
     
  14. Os Trigonum

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    pretty sure we need a federal effort to ban the sale of violent video games. get 'er done Pelosi
     
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    I think it can actually have a negative psychological influence on people. Why wouldn't it?

    https://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2003/10/anderson

     
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    That study should be ignored and considered complete tripe when all of his few citations can be linked to the author of the article.

    Most independent studies from around the world have found no link between video games and violence

    the ones that usually find a link are slammed because of flawed research methodology (including Andersons)

    You should be the one to decide what games are okay for your children based on your kids maturity not listen to people who attempt to cash in on the deaths of people
     
  17. durvasa

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    To find that there is no link whatsoever would be very surprising to me.

    Here is another study that corroborates what Andersen et al. found:

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00384/full

    Sure, but that is a separate question to whether the games themselves are dangerous, isn't it?
     
  18. tinman

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    Will they end murder if they ban
    Among Us?
     
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    Just curious, what would you want done or are you fine with the current regulation with ESRB rating that informs parents of which games to avoid giving their kids? At that point it's the responsibility of the parent not buying their 12 year old kid GTA just like it's the responsibility of the parent to shield their kid from p*rn and violent snuff films.

    Are you suggesting we should limit the scope of what creative content creators can make?
     
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