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Summer edition: 2010-2011 MVP rankings

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by t_mac1, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. goodbug

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    LeBron is the 2nd fiddle until proven otherwise. It's Wade's town, Wade's team. Wade is defending LeBron, not the other way around. Wade is in the center of group photo, how many proof do you need?

    I don't really care who's gonna be the man in Heat. The consensus is that LeBron takes the easy way out.

     
  2. Steve_Francis_rules

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    You'd probably have to check out a thread that wasn't about Lebron or Kobe to see me post somewhere else. I post a lot in the Hangout and D&D.
     
  3. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Wade is 2nd fiddle until proven otherwise. Lebron's the two-time league MVP. Lebron is the one that Wade has called the best player in the league.
     
  4. goodbug

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    For the record, Shaq called Kobe the best player in the league in 2001. LeBron may be 2 times MVP for regular season, but Wade's a proven winner with a final MVP.

     
  5. melvimbe

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    No One can really say who the Heat top dog is until we've atleast played a few games. I'd be shocked if it's Bosh though.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    and yet not a lot of people think wade will be an MVP candidate, but lebron will. how do you figure that?
     
  7. t_mac1

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    so i guess you think pierce and tony parker > lebron. both have won finals MVPs for their respective teams.

    again, another great logical assertion.
     
  8. ubigred

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    Lebron will win the MVP if he can average a triple double...BOOK IT!!
     
  9. goahead3

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    from my POV, it would be difficult for wade, james, or bosh to win MVP. if any of them play MVP ball, they're all going to play well in my mind, and that would mean they'd split votes. i'd take durant, though with a very unique season ahead, it's very hard to predict.
     
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    Since when did Kobe Bryant take the hard way out? Last I remember, he won his first three rings with Shaq, then won his last two with Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest and Phil Jackson.

    LOL the way you talk it sounds like Kobe won with a bunch of scrubs 100% of the time. Also please shut up with the rings argument. DIdn't you make the "If Kobe wins his 5th ring, why isn't he the GOAT?!?!" when MJ had 6? Why don't you address that hypocrisy first before you start mouthing off.
     
  12. roslolian

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    That was in 2001, 9 years ago. Why is that still relevant today?
     
  13. roslolian

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    LOL why is Kobe number 1? He's already 31 and his body is starting to break down. Kobe IMHO had been underrated for much of his career because he always had a stacked team, the past decade IMHO Duncan, KG and Kobe should have dominated the MVP trophies. However Kobe's time is almost over, I'm not sure he can still play at an elite level for prolonged periods of time.

    My MVP rankings are:

    1. LBJ
    2. DH
    3. Durant
    4. CP3
    5. The rest don't matter
     
  14. goodbug

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    Pau Gasol is good. But not anywhere close to Wade's status, he never made all nba team before joining Lakers. He's comparable to Bosh, and will you trade Wade for Odom and Artest? Hell, replace Artest with Ariza, a bench warmer in Orlando and Kobe won it too.

    And no, I didn't start that Kobe's GOAT crap. I think he's gonna be in the conversation when he wins 7, not before that. Obviously I can't be responsible for what others said.

     
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    Lebron shouldn't even be there, since he is just following Wade.

    Without Wade, Miami never gets LeBron and Bosh. Wade should also be GM of the year. :grin:
     
  16. goodbug

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    Why not, isn't that exactly the same situation. Shaq would relax all season long, cruise through playoff watching Kobe killing the Spurs, calling him best player whatever. But he's not gonna give up the ball and the final MVP against the interior east team. And guess who got all the credits? It's all about FMVP baby.

    Good luck with that Magic role, if Magic is in the same team as team as Jordan, he's gonna be Pippen.

     
  17. t_mac1

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    shaq relaxes all season long?

    his worst season as a laker was his last season as a laker (22, 12 on 58%fg - low stats due to big 4). other seasons: 27+, 12-13+. that's relaxing? way to hype up kobe and put down shaq.

    FYI: wade has never won an MVP or been called the best player (in a consensus kind of way) by the media or the players. can't be jordan if you are not considered the best player. lebron is considered the best player in the L by most, along with many former players. i'm sure you disregard that too.
     
  18. sbyang

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    It's between Durant and Lebron. Lebron's going to have to do something crazy, like average a triple double, to get the votes, but it is possible.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    and cruise through playoffs? another blatant lie
    shaq's playoff stats from 00-04
    30.4 and 15.4
    28.5 and 12.6
    27 and 14.8
    21.5 and 13.2

    so kobe does more eh until the finals: (notice i don't include fg% b/c kobe shot 43% in the last years, but i'll let that slide)
    29.4, 7, 6
    26.6, 5.8, 4.6
    32.1, 5.1, 5.2
    24.5, 4.7, 5.5

    the only year you can argue kobe had just as big of a role as shaq in terms of dominance-wise is their 3rd championship.

    but shaq "cruisin" while kobe kills? you call someone who puts up 27-30 pts and 15 boards cruising? who does that nowadays even for 2-3 straight games, and you're saying shaq cruised when he did this for an entire playoff run facing double/triple teams?

    your love for kobe is ridiculous
     
  20. jlwee

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    Don't worry I m pretty sure this senseless kobe fan boy will change his tune once Wade won few more rings and MVPs. He will claim that Wade needed a second fiddle like Lebron to win it all whereas kobe won it all by himself blah blah blah~~~~~~~~~
     

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