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Study: Hydraulic Fracturing Doesn't Contaminate Water Supplies

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bobmarley, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Do I really need to re-post your posts? LOL

    I feel like I'm in a twilight zone episode.

    You seem to have focused on an ancillary issue, your possible death due to fracking poisoning, and that's not really the purpose of this thread nor my involvement in it. You agreed that those with fracking concerns are environazis and that concerns over fracking are BS. I've repeatedly asked for your data or analysis and you continue to dodge the issue. So I'm just going to let you stew on my apparent personal insult to you that I hope you don't get poisoned by fracking. Good luck with that.

    smh
     
  2. TheresTheDagger

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    There's a point to be made here. The point is you made an ASSUMPTION about me before learning the facts. You apparently did so because I disagree with your notion of what fracking does and doesn't do. For the record, I don't have a problem with folks having differing viewpoints. I just prefer they do it in an intelligent and thoughtful manner. Making assumptions about me....and doing so in a way that tries to both mock me and guilt me at the same time was quite humorous. It also is in my experience a strong indication of a less than mature mind. I take opinions/data given to me by immature minds with a grain of salt.

    Good luck with your fracking crusade.
     
  3. robbie380

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    I honestly don't know outside of talking to my friends who work in the oil field....but can anyone post things that show fracking is actually bad? Like consistent studies that show fracking contaminates water supplies?

    All I know is that it's been around for decades and that they seem to take pretty significant safety precautions.
     
  4. CometsWin

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    No, you really have no point at all. You have dodged the issue of the actual evidence for or against fracking repeatedly in some quest to salvage your honor or something. You're big on lip service but bereft of facts.

    My fracking crusade continues! Onward fracking soldiers... :grin:
     
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  5. TheresTheDagger

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    LOL. Of COURSE I have a point. Just because your ego can't accept it doesn't change that fact. The fact you keep responding to me proves this. I'll give you this much, you seem to have an amazing quality for self deception.
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    This is a study at 'a western Pennsylvania drilling site?' Doesn't sound very landmarky given how narrow a study it is. I think it's possible to have a frack job that does not contaminate any aquifers, but there are thousands of wells getting drilled, and the geography and geology is different everywhere. I think it's great they've done a study to prove that this particular well isn't contaminating the drinking water. Now, if they can do it at every rig that fracks, we can get some real data that can give people some assurance that the industry is safe -- or find and shut down the rigs that are not safe.
     
  7. the shark

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    The federal government and the EPA have turned a blind eye to this and now people are to trust a federal study?
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    bro didn't you see the Matt Damon flick? What more evidence do you need. *snicker*

    I'd like to see the evidence, also. So far it hasn't been produced.
     
  9. magnetik

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    I hate to live next to a fracking area.. good chance they will extract gas from under your home. If your lucky you'll just have to deal with a sinkhole or earthquake in the future.
     
  10. Dave_78

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    I know an 80-something year old life long smoker. He does not have lung cancer. Smoking cigarettes does not cause lung cancer.
     
  11. Brandyon

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    I think it's more accurate to say that it's not dangerous when everything goes according to plan. Since variables exist in this world, that's far from a sure thing.

    The thinking is likely similar to the whole Fight Club car recall bit:
    Fact is, there is a risk, but risk takes a back seat to profit.
     
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    I am not anti fracking. however what i heard of concern is collasping rock into water tables or just the destabilization of different areas beneth the crust.
     
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    Potential well water contaminants highest near natural gas drilling, UT Arlington study says

    A new study of 100 private water wells in and near the Barnett Shale showed elevated levels of potential contaminants such as arsenic and selenium closest to natural gas extraction sites, according to a team of researchers that was led by UT Arlington associate professor of chemistry and biochemistry Kevin Schug.

    The results of the North Texas well study were published online by the journal Environmental Science & Technology Thursday. The peer-reviewed paper focuses on the presence of metals such as arsenic, barium, selenium and strontium in water samples. Many of these heavy metals occur naturally at low levels in groundwater, but disturbances from natural gas extraction activities could cause them to occur at elevated levels.

    full article
     
  14. bobmarley

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    ^^^^^

    Also from your article...
    And
    http://www.uta.edu/news/releases/2013/07/Schug-water-well-contaminants-study.php
     
  15. CometsWin

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    My ego keeps asking, over and over again, for your data but your ego seems insulted that I hoped you wouldn't get sickened by fracking. You seem intent on not addressing the data but continuing to cry like a little b****.

    The only position I've taken on fracking is that it's completely preposterous to frack without an appropriate study from an impartial body as to the results of fracking.
     
  16. wizkid83

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    bumping this just because everyone else seem to ignore it. I'm actually interested in the validity of this claim. If true, I wonder at what point can we hold the companies responsible (i.e. do some one have to die, would a tort based law suit succeed). If untrue, well it's untrue :)
     
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    If you lived there you wouldn't be so quick to try to rip down the study.

    That said they need to do more research to pin down the cause of the higher levels of toxic elements. Also, they said they couldn't find uniformity with the contamination which meant not all the water wells around gas well sites had higher levels of toxic metals.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    And yet I bet you wouldn't want to live and raise kids next to a fracking site.

    I consult for a law firm that does class action suits against birth defects cause by toxic exposure. They are licking their lips on fracking.

    Problem with fracking isn't that it can't be made safe, the problem is that industry doesn't have to worry about mistakes it makes because by the time things go down, everyone's made their money and if the company gets sued they will settle for an amount that still is makes it worth it to continue the very practices that lead to these suits. In many cases, the company is ripped of profits beforehand, so it doesn't have the cash anyway to pay the settlements.
     
  19. Nolen

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    Bingo. Being sued by the people you've hurt is just the price of business.
     

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