students get sent home for wearing American Flag on Cinco De Mayo

There's nothing wrong with that.

 

What troubles me is the "we" vs "they" and "our Mexican heritage day" vs "their Fourth of July" mentality. I respect their enthusiasm to celebrate their own heritage but they have to remember that they are Americans too.

 

Sorry, the 4th of July is on a Sunday this year.

The easiest way to solve this problem is for schools to ban clothing with nations' flags on them, so that it does not look like the system is just pandering to one ethnic or national group.

 

you can't think past this year?

 

Or howbout German exchange students wearing clothes depicting the German flag during Jewish heritage day (assuming there is one)

 

That violates their freedom of expression. What comes next? People aren't allowed to wear crosses anymore? Kids can't put John 3:16 on their letter jackets anymore?

Look, there are certain types of groups and demographics that aren't my cup of tea, but I certainly do not get offended nor am I trying to restrict what they can or can't do.

 

Good news is it'll be on a Monday in 2011 and a Wednesday in 2012(don't forget about leap year! ). But it'll still be a school holiday.

How about Cinco de Mayo be declared a national US holiday so that the kids won't be in school to rabble rouse in nonsense like this?

 

If it was a swastika, yes. A German flag, no but I could see it as not tactful.

 

1. read my original post again "(assuming it's not a school holiday)"
2. do you have a limit on thinking in terms of number of years?

 

Who gives a crap if they did that? ... I'm sick and tired of pandering to people in this country that apparently have no desire to be here.

Oh and go look at some history books before you compare Cinco De Mayo to the 4th of July. Cinco De Mayo is basically an American drinking holiday.

 

As opposed to the people who watch the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC spew their vitriol and hatred for America?

 

Just having a little fun with you the same way you are with your various scenarios.

It's obvious that schools will get it wrong a lot of the time when they have to make judgment calls like these. They should either ban all flags on "opposing" holidays or tell the students to suck it up and stop being so easily offended.

Easier said then done, right?

 

Oh really? Under what law is this true? And under what fantasy jurisdiction does this law exist?

Cause I live in reality, where schools are allowed to enforce all manner of restrictions on behavior (including on dress). I mean if we wore t-shirts to school it was automatic detention.

And you misunderstand. The point was that they were engaging in otherwise legally protected conduct OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL SETTING in order to be disruptive INSIDE THE SCHOOL SETTING where it loses such protection. It's

I'm trying to make the fairly obvious point here that intent DOES INDEED make a difference, both in school and out of school, and that seemingly innocent gestures taht are legally protected in the real world in a traditional public forum(i.e. Freedom of speech).....ARE NOT PROTECTED WHEN DONE BY MINORS IN A SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT.

This is school discipline. The Fifth Amendment largely does not apply.

I don't understand what kind of school you guys went to, I do know that when a teacher told me to be quiet, and I refused to do so, I could not avoid detention etc by citing the first amendment, or lodge a substantive due process challenge and postpone my detention.

 

BINGO!!!!

In Mexico they celebrate the 16th of september waaay more than Cinco De Mayo. Mexican residents can correct me if I'm wrong.

It's like St. Pattys Day for us. Restaurants get filled, Mexican beer gets drunk. Cinco de Mayo really wasnt anything until Mexican beers started pushing it.

 

Yeah I was always under the impression that Fiestas Patrias was actually a bigger deal, but it just didn't have the same gimmicky factor for marketing purposes like Cinco de Mayo, which also falls in the middle of a holiday deadzone - it's kind of amazing in the last decade or so in NY the extent taht Corona & Cuervo have been able to turn it into a massive ATM.

 

You are such a dork! Neither one of those networks "spew vitriol and hatred for America"

 

I'd get my musket and send those roadcoats back to where they came from

 

I think that would be just a little different, unless I was asleep the day the United States invaded Mexico and murdered 6 million Mexicans...

Exactly. Nothing more, nothing less.

Why it's turned into a national debate, I have no idea.

 

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I'm with the kids that wore the flag. If some hispanic students get bent out of shape and starts trouble, then they should be ones suspended or arrested, not the students practicing their free speech. Free speech over worrying about someone's p***y being hurt.