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Strom's Thurmond's daughter comes clean

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Woofer, Dec 13, 2003.

  1. SamFisher

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    Fine. I denounce Robert Byrd's former involvement in the Klan. Are you happy?

    You have ignored a critical distinction between Byrd and guys like Thurmond and Helms, however. As time went on and the democratic party began to be more supportive of civil rights, he remained in the party. Guys like Thurmond and Helms left it precisely because it was too friendly to "the negro" as they would put it, and continued to play off racist fears and prejudices for the rest of their careers.
     
  2. Rockets2K

    Rockets2K Clutch Crew

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    1) I have lliberal leanings.(ie...I agree more with libs than cons)

    2) I didnt elect Byrd

    3) Why should I be ashamed of a man's past history that I neither elected to office nor am I a member of the party he is affiliated with.


    Now TJ...tell me again why I should be ashamed since I am marginally considered a *liberal*..( gasp..I said the dirty word:rolleyes: )



    thats what you get for painting an entire side of the political spectrum with your ultrawide brush.
     
  3. giddyup

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    Wasn't it the southern Democrats 9i.e. Albert Gore, Sr.), in particular, who opposed Civil Rights?

    What time table are you operating on?
     
  4. giddyup

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    It's a baqui99 thing. Legendary now. Think Howard Stern.
     
  5. giddyup

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  6. giddyup

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    Durn, I miss the edit function.

    Strom Thurmond apparently switched party affiliation around 1964.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Yes, they opposed them so much that they became republicans.
     
  8. giddyup

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    Six years apart in the case of Thurmond and Helms? Who exactly are you talking about?
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Who gives a damn how many years apart it was? Are you operating in a state of denial with regard to the Southern Strategy? Well, I don't have the patience to explain it to you if you are, so screw it.
     
  10. giddyup

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    SamanthaFisher-- on the rag.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    I'm rubber and you're glue.
     
  12. giddyup

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    So... you're beating a dead horse. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Mulder

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    So once someone leaves this mortal coil no one is allowed to say a bad things about them? And its not like the first post said anything derogatory about Strom.
    Guess we can't say anything bad about other dead people ever again. You better hope Byrd doesn't die.
    Weak, T_J, really weak.
    I expect stronger arguements from you, but lately color me

    DISAPPOINTED.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    How about this. .. THEY ALL SUCK

    Rocket River
    Consider them CONDEMNED

    Byrd . . unlike Thurmond . .. . has a chance to make up for his
    ridiculousness
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Amen. Case closed.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    I think most of the time spent in congress for Thurmond was a disservice to the country, and he did not serve the country well most of the time. I don't care if he's dead or alive, his record is one of segregation, and prejudice.

    Byrd was in the KKK, and that's a scary thing, but at least since that time he's done some good in Congress and continues to champion liberal causes. I'm happy to see that at least in his politics he's trying to move the country forward and not backwards. My problem with Byrd now is that he's the king of pork barrel spending.
     
  17. Woofer

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    The family comes clean. They showed a lot more class than the Jefferson clan.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...u=/ap/20031215/ap_on_re_us/thurmond_paternity

    Sen. Thurmond Had Illegitimate Daughter
    11 minutes ago Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!


    By AMY GEIER EDGAR, Associated Press Writer

    COLUMBIA, S.C. - The late Sen. Strom Thurmond's family on Monday said it acknowledges a California woman's claim that she is his illegitimate mixed-race daughter. Her lawyer said the statement brought her "a sigh of relief."


    "As J. Strom Thurmond has passed away and cannot speak for himself, the Thurmond family acknowledges Ms. Essie Mae Washington-Williams' claim to her heritage. We hope this acknowledgment will bring closure for Ms. Williams," the family's lawyer, J. Mark Taylor, said in a brief statement.


    Contacted at his office, Taylor confirmed he was speaking for the Thurmond family but refused to give detail or answer any questions, including whether the family was in fact verifying the claims of Williams, a 78-year-old retired teacher who lives in Los Angeles.


    "The statement speaks for itself," Taylor said.


    A message left for U.S. Attorney Strom Thurmond Jr. was not immediately returned. Thurmond's widow, Nancy, said she was not taking calls from the media.


    Glenn Walters, an attorney for Williams, said he believes the statement acknowledges Thurmond's paternity, though he hasn't discussed the question with the Thurmond family.


    "We are happy that this matter has been resolved. Mrs. Essie Mae Washington-Williams can now take a place in history as a daughter of U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond," Walters said.


    Said Frank K. Wheaton, another attorney for Williams: "Ms. Williams shed a sigh of relief. She said 'I'm happy and very much surprised.'"


    Wheaton had said Saturday that his client was coming forward to claim that the nation's longest-serving senator — and one-time segregationist — was her father. Thurmond died in June at age 100.


    Williams was to discuss her story at a news conference Wednesday in Columbia. Wheaton said Williams may not release all her alleged evidence supporting the claim because of the announcement. "There may be no need," he said.


    Williams had long been rumored to be Thurmond's child, though she had previously denied it. She came forward now at the urging and encouragement of her children, Wheaton said.


    Williams told The Washington Post that Thurmond privately acknowledged her as his daughter and had provided financial support since 1941. She said she waited to go public because she didn't want to embarrass herself or hurt Thurmond's career. The Post first reported her claims on its Web site Saturday.


    "There was an agreement between the parties that she would never discuss the fact that Sen. Thurmond was her father," Walters said. He said Williams was not seeking money and did not want to challenge Thurmond's will.


    In seven decades of politics, Thurmond gained fame and infamy as an arch-segregationist, but he later came to support a holiday for the slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King.


    Williams claims Thurmond fathered her when he was a 22-year-old living in his parents' home in Edgefield. Her mother, Carrie Butler, 16, had been working as a maid in the Thurmonds' home.


    Raised by an aunt, Williams told the Post she first met Thurmond around 1941, when she was 16, and Thurmond called her a "very lovely daughter."


    She told the newspaper she received money at least once a year in sessions arranged by Thurmond's Senate staff. Wheaton said the total over the years was "very substantial" but less than $1 million.
     
  18. nyquil82

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    Oh sweet jebus....
     
  19. pgabriel

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    What was courageous about his time in Congress, especially since he defended the popular view of his region?
     
  20. Rocketman95

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    I'm guessing all conservatives will shut up about Clinton once he's dead?
     

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