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"Strip Search All 18-28 Year Old Muslim Men At Airports"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by trustme, Jan 4, 2010.

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  1. YallMean

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    Countries that issue passport with religion stated can change any minute. US will be a fool to implement security measures relying on other counties' passports.

    Again, aside from constitutional issues, religion profiling is not going to work as a practical matter. One's religion is not a fixed trait that can be distinguished easily. A person can be go from being a Christian to a Muslim in a snap.

    This sounds a lot to me profiling young middle eastern males, which indeed has been done after 9/11. It is a dangerous slippery slope, with over-reaching effects that will not make this country safer.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    wouldn't ignoring it instead of making a warrantless personal attack further your goal?
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    dude, you really shouldn't spend this much time thinking about me
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    That seems pretty subjective and as Groogrux noted aren't you ruining your own thread aesthetic by going out of your way to criticize another poster?
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    I'll leave that question to someone who knows more than me about Islam. In Christianity, your lies have already been paid for (and you avoid committing them out of love). My uneducated understanding of Islam is that there will be an accounting, with lies in the debit column; they can be forgiven, but it is not a guarantee.
     
  6. Honey Bear

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    Nope. Ignoring it only allows the problem to thrive - awareness is the best solution in this case. This thread might be partially derailed as a result but as long as I can get the said problem to think twice before he ruins another thread (unfortunately with 25,000 posts he posts in all of them), I've done my job.
     
  7. Honey Bear

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    Sometimes you have to take one step backward before you can take two steps forward. I should be praised for taking the initiative and implementing some sort of quality control, not scrutinized. It's all about the long term vision.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    this must be trader_jorge?
     
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  9. MoonDogg

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    thread aesthetics....

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  10. CrazyDave

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    If anyone is yelling pick me, it's normally you. See above.
     
  11. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    If you're interested:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repentance_in_Islam

     
  12. Major

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    ...

    :confused:
     
  13. Honey Bear

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    Is that what you would say to Barack Obama? To Michael Jordan? To Cristiano Ronaldo? It's just my Tom Brady vibe rubbing off on you. As someone who sits behind a desk all day, it's only natural you'll take notice of my charismatic and informative posts. I promote an honest and intuitive atmosphere where I talk to people outside of my tiny, politically affiliated circle of friends. On top of that I provide an unbiased assessment of posters who I feel have nagging, hidden agenda's.

    It's 2nd nature to me to make behavioral observations, but pay close attention to the nature of PGabriel's posts in relevance to the thread topic, the status quo, and what has already been said.

    On the other end you have guys who always contribute to thread aesthetics, like moes, thacabbage, SamFisher, B-Bob, etc.

    While my observations will probably cause you people to bond together with your dislike for me, it will also open some eyes and make PGabs a little more self aware as a mousier version of DD. Let's put some rhythm, progress and culture into these discussions instead of moping around in circles like cerebral potheads.

    I've done my part.
     
  14. Honey Bear

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    Here's another interesting question that comes to mind: Are all politicians and people engrossed in politics overly-needy by nature? What would the state of politics be like if this wasn't the case?
     
  15. juicystream

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    There are plenty of people that hate Israel. There are however far and away fewer flights.
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    LHutz obviously cannot be repeated. He was one-of-a-kind. But, we have a new persona on this bbs now who is just as off-the-wall, just in a different sort of way. While I'm often tempted to put him on ignore, I'm always intrigued by what ridiculous thing he might say next. He is a loathsome, offensive brute, yet I can't look away.
     
  17. TreeRollins

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    I don't believe that is correct. It may be easy to find someone that can easily portray an Israeli but I would think it would be much harder after having to identify yourself with papers.

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  18. Ottomaton

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    If your passport is stamped from a whole bunch of Muslim countries, they pull out the full court press. Unless you have a Wikipedia page, of course...

    [rquoter]

    I don't know how to say this [in Hebrew], but I'm kind of a big deal [on the internet].

    I'm blogging from Terminal Three in Ben Gurion Airport, where I left myself plenty of time to get through all the security checkpoints. The first time I visited Israel, in December 2006 on another research trip, I was extensively interviewed both on arrival and departure. I was strip-searched on the way out, and on the way in I sat in that waiting room they have in front of passport control for a good four hours before someone from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with whom I had a meeting that morning called and intervened on my behalf. An excerpt from one of the security interviews that time around:

    Her: Have you ever been to Iraq?

    Me: Yes.

    Her: What were you doing there?

    Me: Overthrowing the government.

    [She looks confused.]

    Her: Have you even been to Afghanistan or Pakistan?

    Me: Yes, to Afghanistan.

    Her: Well... what were you doing there?

    Me: Overthrowing the government.

    My entire passport, really, might as well read "DO NOT ALLOW INTO ISRAEL. EVER." From this summer's travels alone, I have visas from Morocco, the UAE, Lebanon and Afghanistan. So it was a surprise when I waited only 15 minutes in the waiting room on the way into the country before they came back with a stamped piece of paper and told me to have a nice visit. Neither my friends nor I could figure out how I had passed through security so quickly. On the way out this afternoon, meanwhile, I left plenty of time to make my flight and was, sure enough, stopped by a very pleasant woman who proceded to interview me for a full 30 minutes. She had noticed a tag on my carry-on with my name written in both Roman and Arabic script. I cheerfully told her why I had been in Lebanon, how much I enjoy Beirut and why I learned Arabic. I told her all about the people I had interviewed here in Israel and how I had met them. I told her about my friends in Israel, how I know them, and where I traveled while I stayed in the country. We had a debate about whether or not Baka, where I was staying, was a neighborhood in East or West Jerusalem. I told her about my job in Washington, the kind of research I do, and the origins of my last name. But you could tell it just wasn't adding up for her. Who the hell is this guy? I could see her asking herself. So she took my passport away with her, and I sat on my bags for 10 minutes. When she came back, she had a big smile on her face.

    "Did you know you have a Wikipedia page?" she asked.

    Ah, that explains it. They Googled me. How this blog -- and its name -- wasn't a giant red flag I will never know, but it's nice to know the security staff here in Israel are masters of the interwebs. They didn't even feel the need, after confirming my internet fame, to run my bag through the scanner.

    Such is the collective authority of Sergey Brin and Larry Page, I guess.

    [/rquoter]
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Folks this is real!
     
  20. Zboy

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    In fairness to pgabriel,

    It might have been mentioned multiple times but some still chose to miss it.

    Case in point, Aroundtheworld.
     

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