"Strip Search All 18-28 Year Old Muslim Men At Airports"

Israel has had zero airline attacks. Their airport security is very effective. If we were smart, we'd copy it, but Americans will not allow it.

 

Yeah dude, careful with that concept as it's not only unpopular among Muslims but it makes everyone think we can lie under any sort of pressure about anything.

In reality, there is one very small sect of Shiites who believe this thing to be true for the slightest bit of pressure - as in, if my colleagues at work are all Sunni and they ask what I am, I lie and say I am Sunni as well.

Almost ALL other Muslims understand Taqiyya to mean you can lie about your religion if your life is in danger due to discrimination based on religion. Your llife in danger meaning - you didn't do anything wrong except be a Muslim.

This comes from a story (I'll try to find) of the Prophet PBUH or one of his companions being kidnapped, tied up and told to convert or be set on fire? Something like that. You don't lie, you go to heaven, one way business class. You do lie and say you converted - that's ok too.

Notice the keys here: didn't do anything wrong + in danger of being set on fire.

Now if you go around blowing people up then lie about your religion because you're not man enough to face the consequences, then IMO Taqiyya is out of the question.

Also, Ayatollah Sistani (who is mentioned in the wikipage) means nothing to people who are not Shiite.

I hope Shiite people don't get me wrong. I'm not Sunni or Shiite, I'm just trying to make this concept clear in that it is not for all Muslims. For example, Al Qaeda do not do Taqiyya.

 

There are far less people trying to blow up Israel than there are people trying to attack America.

Also, I think Israel receives less 18-28 male muslims at their airport than you guys do lol.

 

Most Muslim countries state the religion on the passport. Furthermore there are some countries which are 100% Muslim - i.e. only Muslims are granted citizenship.

In other places, the US requires people to hold historical records which would eventually include a reference to religion.

Other things that the US does is tell countries to bar the changing of spelling of names in order to keep tabs on things like this.

Belive me, this is already being done. The suggestion is made for "how can we make it official" rather than "how can we start doing this?".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Indonesia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Philippines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_suicide_bomber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh

 

I agree.

 

Uhhh... Excuse me?

 

18-28 year old Muslim men wouldn't care about blowing up planes if America followed some kind of international diplomacy or wasn't invading and using leverage against every country with oil. America can do whatever it wants in terms of security but as long as corporate interests dictate the lives of the Muslim world, they are going to be attacked sporadically. And the radical Muslims will find a way - as long as poverty thrives in the world (and it always will), there is someone young and naive who can be exploited.

Reps expected.

 

Women. They are already used as suicide bombers in Iraq and Israel. So with that simple move of using a woman instead of a man, the millions of hours and dollars spent on strip searching every 18-28 year old Muslim man is now wasted.

Start strip searching women? Then they can just pick a 16 year old. Now all of that extra money/time spent on searching women is wasted.

And on and on.

 

Its not that Americans won't allow it its also that we can't afford it and it wouldn't work. Israel is a tiny country smaller geographically than almost every US state. It also only has one major airport. There is no way the amount of security provided at Ben Gurion could be applied to every or even most US airports.

Also from what I have heard Israel doesn't use religious or ethnic profiling since many Israeli Jews already look like Arabs and also suicide bombers have done things like dress as Israeli military personel and Yeshiva students.

 

Not to mention we subsize a ton of what Israel does.

Regarding the rules.......if you are going to do it....just do it globally.......every 18-28 year old gets strp searched.

Make it fair.....no complaining if we all have to do it.


DD

 

This profiling isn't going to work. It will be like the rest of TSA -- incredibly burdensome and expensive for the honest traveler, and not much of an obstacle to the terrorist.

Here is my humble, incredibly burdensome and expensive suggestion: reduce the number of international airports in the US to a number that the government can implement credible security with a competent, well-trained, well-paid security force. That would force terrorists to first come in to the States through a well-screened port of entry, then lay their plans inside the country risking detection by law enforcement, and then get on a plane again passing another (if less rigorous) screening, before they can blow a plane up.

Don't be self-conscious. Christians can lie about anything without any pressure. To us, subjecting one's salvation to a little white lie is pretty strict.

 

So, any white lie under the rule of Islam subjects someeone to eternal damnation?

In Christianity you can ask for forgiveness, is that not the case with Islam?

DD

 

how many people go through Israel's busiest airport on a daily basis vs. LAX

 

Brah, it's already been mentioned multiple times in this thread. Stop begging for attention and don't post if you're just going to copy and paste what has already been said. You consistently ruin thread aesthetics for intellectuals like myself.

 

It won't be long before TSA will be strip-searching more women than men.

Talk to U.S. Customs about that ... they had a period of time where they could make any woman strip naked and spread her cheeks while a few male customs agents peeked up in there, allegedly, looking for drugs.

blessed be the power of the state!

 

Thread aesthetics?

 

Use your imagination. A beautiful thread to me has a consistent flow or progress regarding the topic at hand. And if it deviates, everyone adds on incrementally to that deviation.

PGabriel is the anti-thesis of this, he makes one Captain Obvious statement after another and reiterates points that have already been made in hopes of projecting himself as informed. I will not stand for this "Pick me, teacher! Pick me! Pick me! Acknowledge my existence!" middle school validation seeking to ruin the beauty and forward progress of information swapping.