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Stratfor's step by step guide to taking a dump on Venezuelan sovereignty

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mathloom, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Contributing Member

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    This news seems hugely underreported from the big "Western" news sources online.

     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    Cool, maybe then Venezuela would become a free country again, with nice Western chain hotels, and a safe travel destination. I'd go back there in a heartbeat - beautiful country, beautiful women.
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    Yeah...about US intervention in Latin America... Historical examples don't really support your optimism.
     
  4. Mathloom

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    No no. You misunderstand him. When he says "free country", he means it in dollar value.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    So ATW is someone who would have loved Cuba before Castro. They had nice hotels and it was a good tourist destination. It doesn't matter about the people that actually live there.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Believe me, the people in Cuba would prefer Cuba without the Castros.

    Have you seen any people trying to escape the USA to Cuba in self-made boats? No? Vice versa? Yes.

    I have been to Cuba. Have you?
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    Not so sure what ATW means/thinks, but your statement above is absolutely accurate in regards to US foreign policy.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    I have not. I'm also not supporting the Castros. I'm saying it wasn't a free country prior to the Castros, and should have been overthrown even though they had nice hotels and would welcome western tourists.

    Also no where did I say that Cuba was better off than the U.S. Why would you even bring that up in your post? That was totally odd and off the wall.

    Most Cubans who came here from Cuba were those that were directly affected by the revolution. It's natural for those groups to want and need to get out for their own safety. That's especially true when Castro went nuts after winning the revolution.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Everyone in Cuba has been directly affected by living in a dictatorship.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    They weren't on the losing side. Those that were, comprised the largest group of those that fled to the U.S.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    People living under a dictatorship for many decades now weren't on the losing side?

    Tell them that.

    Amazing left-wing arrogance.
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    What rock are you living under? Do you think Cuban immigrants are no longer coming to the US?

    You really admire the Cuban way of government, I guess... not entirely a shock
     
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    People still live in Cuba? I thought they all rowed their way here. shocker.

    My grandmother was from Cuba, she hated it, although it is a beautiful place... she still hated it.
     
  14. Northside Storm

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    Yeah, because American intervention implies support for democracy and is always well-intentioned. :rolleyes:

    See: Iran and the Shah, Greek military junta, Nicaragua-Contra, Mubarak and the Middle East tyrants America had to support until forced not to in order to ensure Israel's claim as the "sole democracy" in the region, Reagen's support of apartheid South Africa, helping kill Diem in South Vietnam, helping get Pinochet into power etc.
     
  15. RedRedemption

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    Forcing democracy onto others is kind of ironic...
    "We know what's best for you, more than you do!"
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Apparently you still have problems reading. Not entirely a shock.

    Your post doesn't really broach anything I said except for an error in your leaps in logic and misunderstanding what I wrote in the first place.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Or merely stating facts which you are ignoring. Castro won the revolution. That's a fact. You may not like it, but it is what happened. My post takes that reality into consideration when I mentioned people on the losing side compromised the largest group of Cubans that fled to the U.S. That was also a fact.

    If dealing with actual facts is what you call arrogance, then I'll settle for being arrogant in your eyes. LOL
     
  18. rhadamanthus

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    Castro overthrew the US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista.

    Amazing lack of historical knowledge.
     
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    It's a great country with great potential that unfortunately has been limited by its leadership. It was interesting to hear the resident's opinions on their country and Chavez.


    And yes, the women there are spectacular.
     
  20. Rocket River

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    Is the USA still got an embargo on Cuba or some such?

    Rocket River
     

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