Strategic Advantages of Acquiring Paul Millsap Mid-Season

Was thinking this would be more of a lateral move to take on an expiring contract (while giving up small rookie contracts) to help clear more cap space for the off-season. Would like to see the Rockets go after Josh Smith. Extremely Versatile.

 

I would trade D-Mo before Jones just on upside

 

Thanks for the link (I'm the author, by the way ).

 

It's true. The Jazz have a higher likelihood of taking Calderon off the Raptors' hands than they ever would solving their frontcourt logjam by taking on more Rockets frontcourt players. It was like this in the other thread, too, with people formulating these Patterson swaps for him without even realizing why the Jazz were letting Millsap go in the first place (i.e. they're already loaded down with mediocre frontcourt players like Millsap and need minutes for their younger guys like Favors and Kanter to grow).

But ignoring simple facts like is commensurate with the same sort of dissonance that has posters claiming that Paul Millsap is a better and more prolific three point shooter than Kevin Love. Or a better "finisher" than LaMarcus Aldridge, who when healthy is basically a Tyson Chandler-like alley-oop target with a midrange J. This overrating of Paul Millsap while not actually knowing anything about him or the players he's being compared to has become endemic at this point. The idea has jumped the shark. The idea is on waterskis right now, wearing a leather jacket and swim trunks, jumping over sharks and going eyyyyyyy. Idea be stupid yo.

 

Thats the hard part, we don't have anything that the jazz would really want. A future pick or 2, PPat and Douglas is all we have for them. They have a bunch of young bigs already, i don't know why they would want Jones, Motie or morris? Asik Lin Harden Parsons is going no where as well, and they shouldn't be looking to take 30 y/o delfino either, so what left?. I know there pg spot isn't in best shape so TD is gone, and its either patrick or morris going along with him plus a couple of picks. Is that enough though?

 

Maybe Minnesota could get involved? They have a glut of PGs and desperately need a PF to either a) keep them in the playoff hunt until Love returns or b) have someone to turn to if they trade Love for another position.

A trade like this would work under the cap:

Rockets get
Paul Millsap

Jazz gets
Luke Ridnour or JJ Barea

T-Wolves get
Patrick Patterson or Marcus Morris

 

You do realize that Millsap can probably just be signed for free this off-season, correct? He'll be an unrestricted free agent.

Why is a team with just Millsap on a 3-4 month rental for the rest of the season better than a team of Millsap AND those players going forward? Unless you really believe that Paul Millsap is the "missing piece" for a Rockets championship THIS SEASON, then you are throwing assets away for a player who can be signed in July for free. It is a momentously dumb idea that was thoroughly debunked just...yesterday.

Do people not understand his contract status? Am I taking crazy pills here?

I'm not flustered or upset or anything. I just thought we were collectively a smarter group of posters than this.

 

I would be okay with this. I think ppatt is a better player than most here perceive him to be though. This is his first year to be used as a floor spreading 4 that shoots a 3. I never thought he would fit this role and he has grown into it well. I think he will be even better next yr.

If we didn't make a move I wouldn't be surprised. The value of ppatt may be at a high though which could net us a mid/late 1st. I could see us just trying to acquire a pick or 2 and not chase a more rounded pf till the off-season. The only caveat to my thinking is I wonder how an This team is so young and I don't think there is a player besides Delfino who is at his ceiling. And Delfino has become an important part of the offense.

 

Well they have a logjam true, but someone like morris who only would be talking 20-25 mins and can play the 3 wouldn't really be hurting them.

Jeffersons gonna be getting around 30 mins a game, so that gives kanter around 18, favors starting will prob get around 25-30 which you can give kanter another 5-10 mins there with morris taking the rest of the mins, and getting the rest of his mins at the 3 which isn't that strong of a position for them. TD ail really help there PG situation too, so that and a couple of picks might do it, maybe not though.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the deal was a 3-team trade with the Rockets giving up Morris, Patterson, and Donatas. Then your PF (Millsap/Jones) and C (Asik/Smith) rotations become very clear. Either the Rockets or a third team like the Raptors would salivate at getting a promising Euro prospect.

Lin/Douglass
Harden/Delfino
Parsons/Delfino
Millsap/Jones
Asik/Smith

This team will be as good as the young players progress. Could be a championship-level team if one or more of these guys can take it to the next level.

 

The last thing the jazz want is more big men

 

This.

 

If people do not understand that Millsap added for free in free agency + assets that can be used in other trades leaves the Rockets better off than just Millsap and no assets, then please email me. I have some exciting investment opportunities to share with you. I'll handle the accounting, too. Don't worry about that. You just leave all that pesky math stuff to your man BeeBeard. I got you son.

 

I agree. I'm not down for trading for Millsap. Just throwing ideas out there. Could of swore I saw Millsap as a RFA, so that's my fault.

Josh Smith would be ideal.

 

Morey doesn't surprise people in what he tries to accomplish. He pretty much says out loud what he wants to do. The only surprise is that he generally targets players that fans don't know about, and therefore assume are not good.

Was it a surprise that he would try to go young by trading Rafer for Lowry with Brooks playing well? Of course not, but he surprised people who had no idea who Lowry was, and who were stuck with the whole "starting PG on contender for backup PG on loser" idea. Was it a surprise that he would trade for Harden? No. But half of clutchfans thought Harden wasn't even worth the max, much less giving a boatload of stuff for.

So the idea of thinking Morey throwing a curveball is laughable. Morey is more systematic and consistent in his approach more than most GMs in the NBA. And he's been open every step of the way. If Millsap is not the type of player he generally covets, then there's no chance he gets the guy, short of an amazingly cheap deal.

IMO, the Rockets will keep doing the same things they always do.

1. Try to get a 2nd star player, although unlikely this year. Therefore...

2. Tries to sell player at peak value for a someone who can grow, or a draft pick.
3. Sell player whose contracts are about to end for draft pick, if there's capable replacement. Douglas fits this category if Beverly shows potential.
4. If available, take on salary and draft pick(s) from a team wishing to shed money. Not sure who's over the luxury tax and needs to dump a contract.
5. If available, use minimal assets to grab a expiring veteran to shore up for a playoff run. i.e. Camby last year.

Players come and go. Draft picks are picked up and given away. But through the years, Morey has always been steady in his approach on trades. And with impending FA and tons of cash, Morey is not going to trade a lot for expiring contract unless the player makes us a contender.

 

Im not stupid man, i just don't think morris TD and a couple of picks is something to be worried about giving up for a guy like milsap, who i know is expiring. He may not be the key to a championship but he will help our playoff run this year, enough help where i'd be ok with giving up a morris TD and a pick or 2 IMO. We could sign him for free in the off season, or we can get him now for a cheap deal and enjoy the playoffs a bit more. And if he wants to sign a reasonable deal in the offseason then why not resign? And if he's asking too much we can s&t and get a lil something, i'm sure not to far from what we would have gave up to got him.

 

Just want to note that the above post is in response to a Morey trade deadline article, not this thread. Hence why it may seem awkward in its direction.

 

why is david west not in this conversation?

 

I'd hate to loose Parsons.
I like Milsap.

I worry about adding a piece that doesn't gel,
since we are gelling so well right now.

Exciting to think about this team's future.
The homer in me wants no one to be traded and us to just get better and better.

 

It wouldn't help them either. Their glaring need is PG right now, and their fans are even talking about Machado because they were high on him before the draft.