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Stoudeimire: 'We were an inch' from title

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Jrazz, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. Mehdi

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    Well if the suns were so damn bad they should have sealed hc advantage..but they couldnt because they lost game 1..look it doesnt matter what we say now...spurs were the better team..and my opinion is that the suns are further than an inch away they are more like miles away from a title.
     
  2. Mehdi

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    what you talking about?
     
  3. Achilleus

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    One more time... The Suns got home court advantage back in game four (when the Spurs lost in San Antonio),then Amare and Diaw were suspended.

    We'll never know that since the Suns were not allowed to have their second best player on the floor in the pivotal game of the series.

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  4. Mehdi

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    i dont get your reasoning behind posting that vid..but anyays its all good just like to debate..maybe we will agree on rockets topics in the futre haha = D
     
  5. thelasik

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    bottom line is a rule is a rule. many great players have been suspended as a result of this rule before, so there will be no exception just because this incident involved amare. its why so many asst coaches are drilled over and over again to immediately put their arms out and block the players from leaving the bench if there is any altercation.

    the players should have known better.
     
  6. Icehouse

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    And whose fault is that? Maybe the guy who knows the rule and left the bench? HE BROKE THE RULE!!!!
     
  7. fadeaway

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    Zero tolerance rules are stupid. You have to use some modicum of common sense in situations like this. The Suns players were basically punished for being good teammates, wanting to check on their star point guard. The suspension decision was the single most significant thing to happen in these entire playoffs, and I think that's pretty sad. NBA management basically decided who won for us and that's a shame because the fans were cheated out of a great series. Now we'll never know who would have "really" won.

    Zero tolerance = zero intelligence.
     
  8. Mehdi

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    suns had a full roster game 6 and couldnt pull it off..look admit it spurs were and are the better team
     
  9. Icehouse

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    They may be stupid but that doesn't change the fact that everyone in the league and their mothers know if you leave the bench you will be suspended a game, and that the rule has been enforced in the past. Lay the blame on the dummies that left the bench. Each team has 7 players on the bench. The other 12 players were smart enough to keep their butts in their seats.

    Additionally, using common sense on when it is appropriate to leave and when it isn't opens up a whole new can of worms. That's why the rule is a zero tolerance one.
     
  10. fadeaway

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    But they probably would have won game 5 had they been at full strength, setting up a dramatic game 7.

    Face it, we'll never know.
     
  11. Jonhty

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    we never know if spurs would've won game 4 had nash not flop and got Horry ejected, who's one of clutchest player in the history of the game. we know that spurs were the better team in 5 games and favored to win the 7-game series as well.
     
  12. demon77

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    i recall game 5 where there is practically a 6 player rotation for the sun, and yet the game still come down to the last min. Don't see how that prove spur is the better team.

    IMO, that series could go either way.
     
  13. jlwee

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    Basketball is not mathematics. Is not like you add Amare and Diaw 35ppg into game 5 that the suns would blow spurs away. Amare never play defense it may be better to have kurt thomas playing more minutes. We just dont know what the outcome of the series should amare and diaw play in game 5. Like you say, the series could go either way.

    To Amare, shut up and dont be a sour grape, get over it.
     
  14. Achilleus

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    How "many great players" have been suspended because of this rule, during the playoffs ? Name a few of them...please.
     
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    I recall hearing on ESPN that 12 players have been suspended a playoff game for leaving the bench during an altercation, and I think that this was NOT including Diaw and Amare.

    Some of them include, I think, Patrick Ewing, Allan Houston, Larry Johnson, Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose.
     
  16. jo mama

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    because the suns got robbed and i hate the spurs.
     
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    Uh.... WHAT? The rule, designed to protect players, refs, and fans alike, is in place to prevent Nash's "good teammates" from running off the bench and swinging away at any and every Spurs player and causing a brawl. The Suns have trainers and coaches to attend to Nash if he's down. Look at the NFL. Do players on the sidelines run on the field and check on teammates who are crushed by vicious or cheap hits?
     
  18. jo mama

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    the game was decided at that point. there was no chance of the spurs winning game 4 at the time that horry cheap shotted nash.

    true, under the letter of the law they should have been suspended, but this incident is a prime example of why zero tolerance is stupid. a spur delivers a cheap shot to a sun and two suns take two steps off the bench. they never interfered in anything going on on the court - and they get suspended.

    if it had been nash delivering the cheap shot and two suns got up and took two steps off the bench then i wouldnt be defending them, but in light of the fact that horry instigated the whole thing i dont think it was right to suspend them. maybe if they actually confronted horry, but they didnt. they didnt cause any distraction whatsoever to what was going on on the court.

    horry was the mvp for the spurs this year.
     
  19. DonkeyMagic

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    how can you say they handed them the title? the spurs still beat the suns the following game when they they were full strength. And even short handed, they had a chance to beat the spurs but blew it. If they really want to be a championship team you have to close out that game, short handed or not.
     
  20. DonkeyMagic

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    cheap shotted? really?

    so laws shouldnt be zero tolerance? how does that fit in with our torture debate? or does your non-zero tolerance for laws only apply to basketball?

    nash instigated it no more than horry...did you see the flailing. i think you are showing a little bias.
     

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