Had to look it up online later, just unbelievable. Yeah, sure, call me the bigot for posting it... Curse the judge, shout fanatics as the Muslim girl who knifed MP smiles as she gets life A judge was subjected to a tirade of abuse in his own courtroom yesterday as he jailed an Al Qaeda-inspired Muslim woman for attempting to assassinate an MP. Islamist protesters harangued Mr Justice Cooke from the public gallery at the Old Bailey, shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ (‘God is great’), ‘British go to hell’ and ‘Curse the judge’. The outbursts came as Roshonara Choudhry, 21, was sentenced to life imprisonment for stabbing former minister Stephen Timms. Choudhry smiled broadly as the judge told her: ‘You said you ruined the rest of your life. You said it was worth it. You said you wanted to be a martyr.’ Outside, a second group demonstrated as the judge told the high-flying student – who stabbed the politician twice in the stomach as ‘punishment’ for voting for the Iraq invasion – that she must serve at least 15 years behind bars. The chaotic scenes unfolded as Home Secretary Theresa May dramatically revealed that the Al Qaeda gang behind last week’s ‘Lockerbie-style’ cargo plane bomb plot are already working in the UK. In court the judge pointedly contrasted Mr Timms’ Christian beliefs with the ‘distorted thinking’ of his attacker, who refused to recognise the court and appeared by videolink for her sentencing. ‘I understand that he (Mr Timms) brings to bear his own faith, which upholds very different values from those which appear to have driven this defendant,’ he said. ‘Those values are those upon which the common law of this country was founded and include respect and love for one’s neighbour, for the foreigner in the land, and for those who consider themselves enemies, all as part of one’s love of God. ‘These values were the basis of our system of law and justice and I trust that they will remain so as well as motivating those, like Mr Timms, who hold public office. The stabbed MP yesterday backed calls for an overhaul of U.S. websites hosting terror videos. University student Choudhry attacked Mr Timms after becoming radicalised by online sermons from the extremist preacher suspected of masterminding the recent airline ‘ink bomb’ plot. The MP, attacked at a constituency surgery, said: ‘My real worry about it all is that a very bright young woman with everything to live for would reach the conclusion that she should throw it all away by attempting to kill the local MP. ‘It is puzzling and alarming that she seems to have reached the conclusion by spending time on some website. ‘That raises questions about what’s on the web. As I understand it, the material she accessed would be illegal if it were hosted in the UK.’ Hundreds of videos inciting violence, including clips by the U.S.-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki who inspired Choudhry to attempt to assassinate the MP, were removed from YouTube yesterday. Their removal followed a private speech in the United States by security minister Baroness Neville-Jones in which she called on the White House to ‘take down this hateful material’. Mr Timms, 55, describing the moment he was stabbed in East London in May by the smiling student, said: ‘I shouted out, “What was that for?”’ ‘That was the last thing that I expected to happen and there was absolutely no explanation to me. She didn’t say a word. It was a complete bolt out of the blue.’ After being disarmed by the MP’s assistant and held by a security guard, Choudhry told detectives the stabbing was ‘to get revenge for the people of Iraq’. Sentencing Choudhry after she was found guilty of attempted murder and two counts of having an offensive weapon, the judge said that if she had succeeded in killing Mr Timms he would have given her a whole-life sentence, meaning she would never be released. He told her: ‘You intended to kill in a political cause and to strike at those in Government by doing so. ‘You did so as a matter of deliberate decision-making, however skewed your reasons, from listening to those Muslims who incite such action on the internet. ‘You are an intelligent young lady who has absorbed immoral ideas and wrong patterns of thinking and attitudes. ‘It is not only possible, but I also hope that you will come to understand the distorted nature of your thinking, the evil that you have done and planned to do, and repent of it.’ He added: ‘You do not suffer from any mental disease. You have simply committed evil acts coolly and deliberately.' Choudhry, from East Ham, East London, spoke only to confirm her name when she appeared by videolink for sentencing yesterday. Wearing a black headscarf, she sat placidly blinking behind her glasses as she watched proceedings on a screen in front of her. The court heard she was a straight-A pupil and top university student at King’s College, London. She had hoped to become a teacher but dropped out weeks before carrying out the attack. English language lecturer Alan Fortune said she was an outstanding student who had been expected to achieve a first class honours degree, adding: ‘The world was her oyster.’ But the judge told her: ‘There is no remorse on your part and you refuse to recognise the jurisdiction of this court over you in respect of your attempts to murder the person chosen by your fellow constituents in the East End of London, including Muslims, to represent them in the democratic institutions of government in this country.’ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...knifed-MP-Stephen-Timms-smiles-gets-life.html ---------------------- Choudhry was interviewed by detectives Simon Dobinson and Syed Hussain. In this extract from the transcript she tells them she dropped out in the third year of an English and communications degree at King’s College London. Choudhry: I was the top student. Question: Was you? OK and what did they say when you pulled out? Choudhry: They didn’t want me to pull out. Question: Tell me what happened today. Choudhry: I stabbed Stephen Timms. Question: You stabbed Stephen Timms? Choudhry: Yep. I’ve been learning more about Islam. Question: Where have you been learning that? Choudhry: Internet. Question: What websites you been looking at? Choudhry: I’ve been listening to lectures by Anwar al-Awlaki. Question: Who’s he? Choudhry: He’s an Islamic scholar. He lives in Yemen. Question: And where have you been listening to these lectures? Choudhry: I downloaded it off of the internet … explaining stories from the Koran and explaining about jihad. Question: Has that contributed to your decision to leave King’s? Choudhry: Yes. Question: And where was the link there then? Choudhry: I thought that I should have loyalty to my Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine and so I should leave King’s and that would show my loyalty to them. Question: So when did you decide: ‘From what I’ve learnt, I’m now gonna go and stab Stephen Timms?’ Choudhry: A couple of weeks ago. It’s three weeks ago, four weeks ago. Question: How do you feel now about what you’ve done today? Choudhry: I feel like I did what I’d planned to do. Question: Tell me your thoughts about what you’ve done. Choudhry: I feel like I’ve ruined the rest of my life. I feel like it’s worth it because millions of Iraqis are suffering and I should do what I can to help them and not just be inactive and do nothing while they suffer. Question: I just want to go over a little bit how your thought has gone from getting to religion to wanting some form of vengeance. Choudhry: Because as Muslims we’re all brothers and sisters and we should all look out for each other and we shouldn’t sit back and do nothing while others suffer. We shouldn’t allow the people who oppress us to get away with it and to think that they can do whatever they want to us and we’re just gonna lie down and take it. Question: Where did you learn that from? Choudhry: From listening to his lectures. Question: How did you feel about what you was about to do? Choudhry: I was a bit nervous about what I was gonna do but I felt like it had to be done and it’s the right thing to do. Question: What, what did you think about getting killed then? Choudhry: I wanted to die. Question: Why? Choudhry: I wanted to be a martyr. Question: Why’s that then? Choudhry: ‘Cos, erm, that’s the best way to die. Question: Who told you that? Choudhry: Islamic teaching. Question: Where did you learn that? Choudhry: It’s in the Koran and I learnt it from listening to lectures. Question: What lectures? Choudhry: By Anwar al-Awlaki. Question: Why did you pick an MP to carry out this attack? Choudhry: Because he was directly involved with the declaration of war, so he’d directly committed a crime. Question: What do you think about what you’ve done? Choudhry: I’ve fulfilled my obligation, my Islamic duty to stand up for the people of lraq and to punish someone who wanted to make war with them. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hen-Timms-smiles-gets-life.html#ixzz14SljMSMP
SPECIAL REPORT: The 'DIY jihadists' paid for by us... Roshonara Choudhry supporters are living on benefits They refuse to apologise for their vile rant at the Old Bailey that made a mockery of our justice system. Nor are they repentant over supporting the radical Muslim woman on trial there for trying to kill an MP in a knife attack. As 21-year-old London University student Roshonara Choudhry was sentenced to life on Wednesday, they cursed the judge from the public gallery and hurled abuse at a terrified female juror wearing a Muslim headscarf, screaming ‘Shame on you, sister’. The three agitators were then bundled out of court where, incredibly, were allowed to continue their poisonous rant. With faces twisted in fury, they waved banners saying ‘Islam will dominate the World’, yelled ‘British soldiers must die’, and screamed that the knifed Labour MP, Stephen Timms, should be killed. Until now, they have been unidentified. But the Mail can reveal their names and that they operate at the centre of a dangerous organisation intent on bringing hard-line Islamic sharia law to Britain and flying the flag of Islam over Downing Street. They warned me that Choudhry is only one of hundreds of home-grown ‘DIY jihadists’ – many female and some recently converted to Islam – prepared to die as martyrs. I met two of the protesters in a coffee bar in Ilford, East London, after receiving a call from an intermediary within the fanatical group Islam4uk. I found that both are living on benefits, one claiming to suffer from chronic fatigue disorder, while they orchestrate an Islamic backlash against Britain. Although both use Islamic pseudonyms – Abu Saalihah and Abu Abdullah – their birth names are Mohammed Shamsuddin and Mohammed Haroon Saleem. As Shamsuddin, 34, told me: ‘The majority of Muslims sympathise with our Sister Roshonara. They view her as their heroine now. ‘The Islamic websites and forums are full of messages of support for her and anger at the Old Bailey judge. Men and women are inflamed by the harshness of the sentence she was given.’ Shamsuddin and Saleem, along with a third radical, East London office administrator Abu Yahya, 27, (who refused to give his birth name) escaped scot free after the Old Bailey outrage despite some MPs’ demands for their arrest for contempt of court. ‘We were told by a police officer outside the court that the judge had sent us a message to say, “Don’t do this again and you’ll be all right”. I would have gone to prison for a week and was surprised I wasn’t sent there. I would happily have done so,’ said Shamsuddin, with a smile playing on his bearded face. Saleem, 29, added: ‘It is going to happen again, I promise you. Stephen Timms was stabbed in the stomach twice by Roshonara Choudhry ‘We won’t stop. There are plenty of young Muslims who are angry and frustrated. They think they are treated as second-class citizens. ‘They want to take their fight on to the streets of Britain. It isgoing to get worse after this.’ The two men are obviously well-educated. Shamsuddin studied at Southampton’s Solent University and ran the Islamic Society there. He was brought up in North London, by his Indian parents who came to Britain 40 years ago. His father was the head chef at the Bombay Palace near Oxford Street, until his death two years ago. He was radicalised after inviting Omar Bakri Mohammed (an extremist Muslim cleric now banned from Britain) to speak at the university. Shamsuddin now has four children, three girls and a boy. Two of them go to private schools at a cost of £2,000 a year each, although he is living off benefits at a family house in Walthamstow. Saleem has four children, two girls and two boys, and lives in Ilford. He too is jobless and claiming benefits. ‘I used to be a quality controller at a meat factory but they laid people off last year. I am looking for another job,’ he told me. It was after watching abhorrent hate-filled sermons by the fanatic Anwar al-Awlaki on the internet that Choudhry decided to attack Stephen Timms because he had voted in the Commons for Britain’s war with Iraq. Her Bengali family have, apparently, disowned their daughter and she refused to appear in person at the Old Bailey (saying she did not recognise the British justice system because it was not sharia law), receiving news of her sentence by video link in prison. When I meet Shamsuddin and Saleem they appear polite. But their conversation is littered with hatred of non-Muslims. The white working class are ‘riff raff’, they say, and non-Muslim women flaunt themselves as sex objects by putting on make up in the morning to attract men. As for the moderate Muslim Council of Britain, that is the puppet of Government ministers. So why, I ask, did they shout abuse in a British court room at a woman juror from their own community? ‘It is unacceptable for one Muslim sister to condemn another,’ says Shamsuddin. They may speak in moderate tones, but it is what they say that shocks. These two radicals have never, so they say, trained at terror camps in Pakistan or Afghanistan. They wouldn’t know how to put a bomb together (although they assure me plenty do and it is only a matter of time before one ‘gets through’). Yet as they walk the streets of Britain with State money in their pockets and time to preach a divisive creed, it is hard not to conclude they are every bit as dangerous. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dhry-supporters-living-benefits.html?ITO=1490
Not to take away from the orginal intent of your thread, ATW, but that story is relatively tame compared to this one (and in the same vein): http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/06/world/asia/06pstan.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=pakistan bomb&st=cse These @ssholes have no right to even call themselves human...