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stop trying to force feed yao in the fourth

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. choujie

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    1. Yao has trouble cathing rebounds and terrible passes, but he doesn't have big trouble catching good passes. He has failed before, he also has succeded before. The number of games when Yao gets the ball and succeeded far exceeds the number of games other players jack up stupid 3s and succeeded.

    2. You like to play stupid ball so mucg,what else can I say. 1 FG made in almost 13 minutes played in 2 critical 4th quarter, and you'd rahter keep doing that.

    3. Using Yao as a decoy is just what every opponent would like to see, and it is the recipe for Rox disaster. Those 2 4th quarter proved it soundly.
     
  2. ibm

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    they did NOT force feed yao when he's fronted in the bulls game. so this is not your witness to support your case.

    they instead went away from yao completely (thanks to a young pg and a frenzy 2 guard).

    the result? a bigger collapse than the portland game and cost them a game.

    force feed when yao is fronted? depends. if they (incl. yao himself) practice the lob to perfection, then yeah, why the heck not?

    completely going away from yao? a big NO NO. the bulls game should tell you how many points of lead we could burn if we do that.
     
  3. choujie

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    When nobody can do that, you go back to Yao, no matter he's tired or not.

    If somebody is hot, go to him, if there is none, force feed Yao. It's as simple as that.
     
  4. ibm

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    and in your opinion, that's entirely yao's fault?
     
  5. ibm

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    i've always enjoyed the subtlety in your posts when you bash yao. it's artistic work.

    seriously.
     
  6. rocketgenius

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    you don't get it do you? i mean, why would RA go away from him if he's the one that we could count on. no play should be ran for yao because he simply cannot catch the ball if they play physical, he's too slow and weak.. his man outquicks and there's no flow to our offense.. i'm not bashing him but that's what we see. no? agree? plain and simple
    this should answer all 3 points
     
  7. rocketgenius

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    force feeding yao is the problem
    yao is great for 36 mins, but he needs to make an impact, say, on the defensive end down the strech. be a force out there without the ball..
     
  8. choujie

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    Of couse I don't get you because what you said is laughable. Why do you say RA went away from him? I believe it's more about his inability to draw a good play or other players' inability or unwillingness to pass him the ball.

    Artest doesn't want to pass top anybody in 4th quarter, AB hesitated and lost the best opportunity to pass Yao the ball etc. And that's not good for Rox, as you can see.
     
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    Whatever happened to JVG's giving Yao the ball in movement?

    The simple thing to do when Yao is fronted, is try to drive to the hoop and force Yao's man to cover, or swing the ball and shift the defense.

    Some of those things have regressed.
     
  10. rocketgenius

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    Yao needs to be a bigger force on the defensive end
    and only go to him if they don't front him
     
  11. choujie

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    Force feeding Yao never resulted 1fg in 6 minutes before. And that happened twice in 3 games when they decided not to force feed him.
     
  12. choujie

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    AB and ARtest's heads are too hot to do that when the game is on the line.
     
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    RA's inability to draw a good play?
    blaming on one of the best offensive coaches in the game is silly. its not like they didn't try, it just doens't work.
    Yao can't catch the ball with a fronting defense. undestand?
    and no, players don't want to pass him the ball for the same reason.
     
  14. rocketgenius

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    lol
    when did you start watching the rockets
    honestly, have you been watching the games? or just read espn boxscores
    forcing yao is one of the bigger reasons that we always collpase in the 4th
    get the facts right
     
  15. choujie

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    Nobody can catch the ball with any kind of defense if the ball is never thrown to him.

    How to you know players don't want to pass him the ball? Didn't every player say they need to pass the ball to Yao?? There are likely two reasons: they are too hot headed or they are not capable of. I'd say both. Since Alston and Tmac apparently did a better job when they wanted to.
     
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    Look at my registration date and yours before you open up your mouth. Rox lost way more games when they ignored Yao than Yao choked at the end. Just by looking at game threads this year you'd get the idea. You happend to have selective memory, only remembers the games Yao couldn't bring us the wins, but chose to forget the games when Yao did bring us wins, and the games Rox choked away by ignoring Yao.

    Heck, you even ignored the most recent games when that happened.
     
  17. ibm

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    first we're talking about our OFFENSE, do yao's defensive presence can wait.

    then, are you saying that as soon as yao is fronted, we should immediately take him out of the game? now i've truly heard it all.
     
  18. rocketgenius

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    alston and tmac were great passers
    they were able to create, draw double team and dump it to yao for dunks/layups
    but no, if yao was fronted, same result.
    they were too hot headed.. sigh i won't even address that you cannot be serious
    they're not capable? that's bull.. for the last time
    on matter how good a pass a guy throws, if Yao's man outquicks him to the ball, its still a turnover. and that's on Yao, he's just too slow and weak
     
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    Yao should try to 'pull the chair' on the fronter once in awhile. I imagine it can work as well as it usually does in the opposite scenario.
     
  20. rocketgenius

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    not we should
    yao should take himself out of the game
    tmac's already quit on this team, now yao still plays like a girl...

    we should expect nothing from our franchise player, let somebody else lead us in the 4th
     

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