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stop trying to force feed yao in the fourth

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    we beat fronting defenses rarely. obviously games here and there we'll do it. but on a consistent basis, we can't. we just gotta stop going to yao and going to other options and force them to adjust defensively, then we can go back to yao.
     
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    from shane battier's quote today, we're going to keep force feeding yao.

    this team is going nowhere.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    If they did that in the Bulls game they win...

    DD
     
  4. Sooner423

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    Yeah, you have to mix it up. When it was obvious that Brooks was struggling, I would have gone to Lowry. A little pick and roll with Lowry and Artest would have been nice. If that works a couple of times, then maybe thing open up to get Yao the ball in the post.
     
  5. choujie

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    We started to beat fronting defense more often since midseason last year. But it becomes much worse recently. Yao never touches ball under that kind of defnese since Rafer was traded. That hasn't happened in a long time, even in JVG era.
     
  6. choujie

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    If they did that in Portland's game and today's game, those 2 4th quarters would be better.
     
  7. LabMouse

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    This Brooks guy was real stupid tonight, I was really thinking he would be very good PG, but the time will tell.

     
  8. rocketgenius

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    if you watch closely, its yao's problem.
    1. whoever that defends him ALWAYS outquicks him to the ball, espcially in the 4th since Yao's tired
    2. Yao has horrible hand-eye coordination, if somehow he catches the ball, he turns it over. He does not delivery down the strech
    3. why would the coach abandon getting your suppose no.1 option down the strech. The coach is not dumb, he realizes force feeding the ball to Yao will not cut it, that's how they blew big leads in the past years. The best bet is to run another player for a better chance to score
     
  9. bulk

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    What are *other options* and when did they work?

    Please, don't tell me *other option* is T_Mac No. 1.
     
  10. bulk

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    Great bet. Except it resulted in a 23-3 Bull's run.
     
  11. scalper

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    here lies the problem for the game...

    Artest was having a pretty good shooting game... coming into the 4th...

    and even better 3 point shooting...fg%

    do we go to the hot hands... like Artest and Scola.. for the game...


    or force feed Yao?
     
  12. rocketgenius

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    i can take this growing pain
    when you fail 100 times out of 100 times with Yao, you've gotta try something else
     
  13. PianoRed

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    disagree....
    Acoording to your opinion, who should take tbe ball?
    Tonight, it was the head coach's fault.
     
  14. LabMouse

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    Great job, at least you are doing some education job for someone. Right now my hope is on Lowry, he is doing his job right now.

     
  15. choujie

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    1. Yao was briefly open without seeing the ball, no play is called to set Yao free.

    2. What if he scores? Criticize Yao all you want, but Rox simply dorsn't have another single player can score better than Yao in that situation, or created open looks for teammates when he gets the ball. A healthy Tmac is no longer on Rox.

    Getting 1 FG in a combined 13 minutes against Portland and Chicago without Yao touching the ball and you still thinks that's better than force feeding Yao down the strecth even with the potential TOs?

    3. The coach of course want Yao to get the ball, I believe. But he doesn't have the right plays called or doesn't have the right players to do that.
     
  16. bulk

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    I beg for a differ. They tried 100 times with Yao and failed maybe 60 times. They tried bricking 3s 100 times and failed 99 times.

    I would work to improve the 40% instead of 1%.
     
  17. choujie

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    There were many times Rox relied on Yao to carry them to a win. 27 points against Wizards in 4th quarter was the best of them. But you simply chose to forget.

    Even if Yao doesn't score, he'd create open looks for his teammates. Rafer used to be clutch in 4th quarter because he was so wide open(you know the reason why), now AB couldn't get the chance because Yao doesn't see the ball.
     
  18. rocketgenius

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    1. no play SHOULD be called for yao to set him free until he learns catch the ball and deliver. period. He has failed us too many times down the strech.. you can't keep losing games like that. Yao had his chances, so, sorry

    2. What if Yao was as mobile as Shaq or Dwight Howard, then he still could make an impact the game. and btw, Aaron Brooks and Ron Artest. I would rather put the rock in their hands down the strech.

    3. The coach used Yao as a decoy. Fronting defends solves Yao until he mans up.
     
  19. rocketgenius

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    Yao carrys this team the 1st 36mins
    somebody else needs to finish it for him
     
  20. scalper

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    ^ well you got your wish this game... since Yao made no impact in the 4th

    Aaron Brooks and Ron Artest controlled the ball...

    why do you seem so mad?
     

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