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Stop blaming kubiak

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Air Langhi, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. rikesh316

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    Where did he acknowledge that the play was drawn up for Dressen? After Schaub threw the ball and was going to back to sideline you can see that Kubiak went straight to him and looked liked he a chewed him out a little. If Dressen was the only guy open, you throw him the ball and see what happens. You probably don’t have time to get the field goal but maybe you can get a face mask penalty or something. If Dressen hold onto the ball you go to overtime.
     
  2. MadMax

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    i didn't hear it...but apparently he did:

     
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    Yep, sounds like what he had in mind. Honestly, not the play I would have called but also not the worst play call his made. Sounds like the false start ,on Joel, really threw them off their gameplan.
     
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    Let me just clarify, he said that was the play once no one else was open down the field which caused Wex to question him. He did say that was his second option and something they told Schaub to hit.
     
  5. Major

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    This is one of those things where I don't blame Schaub too much on that play. He looks around, doesn't see a guy open, and then sees a player open, knows he needs to get rid of the ball, and throws it.

    The reality is that Dressen should never have been there - it was a bad play call. It's like those stupid 4th and 10s where you run a bunch of guys on stop routes 5 yards down the field. The play should have been one where everyone is along the sideline or down past the 1st down marker. Schaub either hits one of them or throws it away.
     
  6. Fyreball

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    In the field of play, I can certainly understand how Schaub might be desperately looking around for someone to throw it to, find Dreesen over the middle, and throw it to him instinctively, without thinking too much about the clock. What I can't understand however, is why such a play is called in the first place. It makes NO sense to have a crossing pattern even as an OPTION in that situation. It would have made MUCH more sense to just heave a long one down the sideline to Andre, and see if he can make a play. If that's just not an option, throw it out of bounds, and get ready for OT. The play they ran literally had the MOST negative ramifications, and the LEAST to gain.
     
  7. MadMax

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    ok...point is modified but it still stands.

    if your second option means the game is over, then you've called the wrong play!!!
     
  8. J.R.

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    My sloppy recap. Feel free to call me dumb or a clown for still tuning in heh.

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    After the game, you said it was inexcusable Glover didnt make the play.

    No, not pointing towards Glover. It was us as a team. Glover did what he was suppose to do. My disappointment was meant as a football team. Cant lose a game in that situation. People responsible for going up for the ball and others repsonsible for stopping them.

    He was suppose to knock it down?

    Exactly. You either catch it or knock it down. If in a tough environment, you knock it down.

    You went down and kicked FG early in the game, can you do anything to fix these slow starts?

    We moved ball last week well against SD. We have had struggles throughout the season. Couple of 3 and outs(2 yesterday), then down by 7 or whatever, we run 49 football snaps. That's not a lot to get your job done. Gotta find a way to get more snaps. 2nd half we went uptempo. Last week we started uptempo. We need to find more snaps.

    When you say uptempo, what does that mean?

    You got things you're trying to get done. Had 20-23 snaps at half. We needed to figure out in 2nd half how to get more snaps.

    Worse on 3rd down?

    2-6 yesterday. Made 1 on first drive. Made 1 later but still punted. Big drop on 3rd down. 2 3 and outs. Not gonna have the ball for long.

    Take us through 90 seconds. Scobee misses FG there.

    35 yard line is the goal. No wind there. If we get Neil there, good chance we make the FG. 2nd and 10 at 45, That play had 8-10 yards but jumped offsides. 2-15 with 22 secs left, no play there then 3rd and 15. You dont have time to run 8 yard play and then get FG team on the field. Need 19-20 seconds. Couldnt kill the clock because it was 4th down. Once we missed 2nd and 10, we missed out.

    Did you think about taking any shots down the field?

    3rd and 15 - I think we could still make a play but we werent able to. They also had a kicker who made a 59 yarder a few weeks earlier, which concerned me.

    Insight on...they gotta pick themselves up. What did you tell them?

    We gotta go back and look at the game first. Not Joel or Quin's fault and if you think so, you're wrong. Many reasons we lost the game. We gotta meet our standards in all 3 phases. Our standard is not being met right now. You wont beat anyone not playing well. Teams we're playing, you got no chance if your not playing well. None bigger this week. Searching for answers on D. Hasnt gotten better so we gotta do some things, figure it out. On O, gotta play 4 quarters instead of 2 1/2. ST wise, we did our job yesterday.

    Worst D in the league, anyone gonna lose their job?

    We have to do everything we can to improve. Every player we got available, we may have to do things coaching wise, but we gotta give ourselves a chance to improve. We played some different guys, changed things up but things the same.(When he says 'coaching wise', no it did not sound like Frank's job was in any danger)

    Did you play McCain more in place of Jackson?

    Yes, McCain played more. It was a rotation.

    Matt make right decision going into middle on Joel?

    Only place he could have gone to. We make 15 yards many times. He did the right thing.

    Turk in the bottom of the league. Anticipate a change?

    Matt has been consistent. Agree yesterday though wasnt good.

    Kareem rotation with McCain was planned then, correct?

    Yes, planned.

    What else did you do differently on D?

    Rotated some guys. Played Sharpton, had plan with Kareem and Brice, played a safety more. We'll get Allen involved. Cushing went back to his spot. That was a positive. Had other problems still. Gotta keep searching.

    Play before Antonio Smith offside, did you want to challenge?

    Looks like his foot was out.

    Did you go back and look?

    Yeah, thought his foot was out. Wont hear back until Wednesday from the league.

    [Missed question]

    We can make a play on the Joel play. Cant get out there though and make the FG.

    How surprised your D continues to get beat up so bad?

    Come again?

    Over last 13 games last year, 4th in D. This year, your D is getting beat up. Does that surprise you?

    Yes, I'm struggling big time. Im aware of the issues but not an excuse. No reason not to be improving. Had issues at various spots but there should be progress. In Indy, thought some progress. Against San Diego that all came back. Yesterday, bad again. We're trending the wrong way.

    Right before we talked to Glover, you pulled him aside, share what you said?

    Worried about guys like that. Just wanted to tell him he did fine, and I'm with him.

    What is it like on tape with Arian screen?

    We can talk about a play here or there. We had many opportunites to get it done and we didnt get it done.

    Anyway to describe why your bad in November?

    I would if I could.

    As a coach, you been through losing streaks though no loss like this. Job harder this week?

    Coming out of a loss, its the same. Yesterday was devistating but still a loss. We gotta do some things to change the things going on. Gotta change the trend on D.

    How frustrated are you, at this point, you're in a bad spot after starting out well.

    Thats football. Been part of it for a long time. Dont order playoff tickets when 4-2. Just keep playing. If you play well and get some breaks, things can change. Wont change unless you keep working.

    Moved Cushing back, how did he do?

    He played both inside and outside. Nickel he played inside. Much more impact on stat sheet because where he was. Him there(on the outside) is best for our team so hopefully Kevin (Bentley) can stay healthy.

    Change on D calling? Ray Rhodes?

    No Frank will still call plays. They're in it together.

    Having trouble on D, thought about being more aggressive on O such as going for it on 4th down,etc?

    Did that 2 weeks ago and backfired. Better score some more points.

    Injuries?

    No we came out ok.
     
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  9. Major

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    Well, here's hint for Kubiak. If you went uptempo at the beginning of last week and scored a lot. And then stopped and didn't score. And then started this week not going uptempo and didn't score. And then went uptempo in the 2nd half and started scoring, there might just be a pattern here.

    Perhaps you should try going uptempo for a whole game.
     
  10. Mashing

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    Took the words right out of my mouth. Shaub (and the whole team really) looks good in uptempo. They should play like the Colts do (tempo wise).
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Kubiak doesn't seem to have a good feel for making an overall gameplan and time management. He can obviously build a good offense, but strategy and management is lacking.
     
  12. solid

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    This is a team "screaming" for new leadership. The players aren't asking for new leadership, at least publicly, but it written all over the way they play. Someone could salvage this mess, but it is not the Kube. I am sure he is a great guy just like Bum's son, but this mess is past his pay grade. A good draft or two and a few trades might get this fixed, maybe not, but they are going nowhere now. I have not been impressed with the Texan's drafts for some time although the consensus on this board seems to be that they have great personnel. I don't think so, especially on defense.
     
  13. Cannonball

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    The problem is that that puts the defense on the field even more. Is it possible for the defense to play worse? Believe it or not, the answer is yes. I think milking some time off the clock might aid in the defense getting a stop one out of every four or five possessions.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    You mean why not try the exact same play . . . . that beat you?

    Rocket River
     
  15. tmoney1101

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    Only men can grow good mustaches.
     
  16. J.R.

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    Gary Kubiak Show:

    Appreciate it as always. Rich and Rob here. On the game, it seems like you guys are in creative in losing. That was a new one yesterday.

    Yeah, very difficult. Had all kind of opportunies. Flipped the game in the 2nd half. We didnt make the plays to finish.

    A lot of people wondering about final play and whether Glover would be better catching it.

    You either catch it or knock it down. He did what he was coached to do. He doesnt know where it's gonna go but other guys gotta box out the trailers. We didnt finish the play.

    One follow up, do you ever consider some WRs back there?

    We did work on that a few years ago but our guys should be able to handle that situation. That's something we work on all the time.

    Mentioned quick turn around in 3rd Q, almost a diff. team. What changed from 1st half to 2nd half.

    Was a lot like a couple games back. Not much tempo. Had 2 3 and outs. Had 15 plays and we turn around and it was 17-3. Had 49 total snaps, usually its around 70. At half, we said we would go to hurry up mode. We were efficient doing it. Bad snap on 3rd down and had to punt and then TO at end of game.

    Are you at as much as a loss as much of we are, or at least I am? Very flat in many games in the first half.

    Different last week. But we had our chances in 2nd half yesterday.

    How much does tackling need to improve?

    Just gotta improve on D. Gave up a bunch of yards yesterday. Cant get off the field. Gotta try something different. Gotta get new guys in there, try something different coaching wise. We played better vs Indy, but in last 2 weeks, it has gone back to bad. Gotta find change to the better direction.

    You mention change, is Bush safe?

    Frank is fine. I think Frank is doing a heck of a job. Frank led D last 12 weeks last year when they were good. When it's bad, you gotta try something different. Gotta go about our week different, maybe do different things in what we're doing coaching wise. Gotta introduce change.

    On the D, you mention doing something different, gotta include looking at different guys?

    I dont forsee any big changes but Allen gotta get going. He gotta see the field. McCain was more involved. Safeties playing more. Sharpton saw more time. We gotta get other guys an opportunity. Everyone is gonna get an opportunity.

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    [Caller]: I've noticed from the beginning of the season until now, seems focus isnt there from the beginning of the season. I'm sure they're motivated but...they were focused and motivated, now it seems the focus isnt there like at the beginning of the season.

    I guess...the morale has been good 4 times and bad 5 times. I look at the past couple weeks, nothing wrong with the morale. We just need to make a play or two to finish the game. This group is upbeat though.

    Tough losses can have a cumulative effect, what can you do as coaches to avoid that?

    I dont feel that way. If you got the right and people and doing it the right way, things should work out. There are highs and lows. Right now, we need to keep pushing as a team. Cant feel sorry for yourself. Gotta keep working and get things changed.

    [Caller]: Antonio Smith jumps offside in crucial spots, when is enough enough there? What was the thought process on the Joel Dreessen play?

    Antonio - disagree there. He has jumped a couple times but it's not 50/50 with him. It does hurt but..we address it with our players. He gives us all he got. With Dreessen, we had 22 secs left, 2nd and 10, need 7 yards, then penalty on that play, got pushed back, 3rd and 15 with no TO, we're in a tough bind. I think we can make a play and get clock killed but cant make a play down the field and get the clock killed. Called a play for Matt to go down the field. Got 11 yards there and probably going to OT but in a tough situation because of the 2 prior plays.

    I wouldnt use the word morale but Antonio said, your message had to do with accountability and guys not giving it their all would not be accepted. Is that right?

    Thats the case all the time. We have to remind ourselves of that constantly. We all got a job to do. My talk today was about standards and we arent meeting our standards. When losing, people may not do things harder. That was my message.

    Need better effort better?

    No, not effort. They work hard. Got great practices but not transferring to the field.

    [Caller]: This mediocre D keeps showing up. I know you had whole offseason to move players around and do this and that, why no dominant DT to help stop the run? You got a young secondary. We need to establish a dominant line. We keep running this mediocre D out there.

    Believe it or not, what we are doing well is stopping the run. We struggled stopping the pass. We did draft Mitchell. He has been a positive. I will agree with you on one thing - this D is not acceptable. We have not improved in the last 2 weeks. Gotta show some improvement.

    Seems like Amobi had one of his better games. How did he do?

    We played with good effort inside. Mario also did well. Bottom line - Garrard had a good day so what we're doing, we gotta do better.

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    Thoughts on Bentley and Brian?

    Good to get Brian back out there. More factored in the game going back out there. Kevin played better this week. Stamina better, played a lot of snaps. He can run the show. Need constant improvement across the board though.

    [Caller]: In regards to clock management, we got the ball back, had 3 TOs, threw passes to middle of field and didnt use a TO. At the end of the game, no TOs and threw to middle of the field. Strategy there?

    At end of the half, I dont have the exact seconds right now but we were backed up. When we didnt get first down on 2nd down, I didnt wanna punt the ball so I let the clock run out. At the end of the game, we used TOs to get the ball back. We had plenty of time to get the job done but we didnt. We hurt ourselves.

    [Caller]: I've heard about mediocre changes or things we hope for, we're playing against an arrogant coach, I imagine he's confident. I havent heard anything on what we are going to change. Or is anything going to change? What are some of the mediocre things you hope to see change? Anything you can tell us you have planned that will be different or noticeable?

    No big changes. We gotta give more guys opportunities. No lineup changes. No lack of effort on our part. We're just not doing good. Nothing will change on who is calling the D. We need to improve and will do everything we can.

    Everyone that gets rep, is everyone on notice?

    Lets start with, you only got so many guys. You look at the secondary, we lost Barber and that was a blow. All 3 safeties played, all the corners played except Allen and he wasnt ready. Every LB played except Adibi, who has been hurt. On the D-line, everyone played except Nading. We're trying to get everyone involved.

    What role should we expect to see for ALlen?

    Hope to see him on the outside. He has played against this team. He has done some good things. Gotta catch him up. We thought about suiting him up but didnt.

    When you pick up a player like this midseason, how concerned are you about his previous time?

    First off, guys arent on the waiver wire unless they dont want them. You evalute based on talent and what you see on film.

    [Caller]: About accountability, we keep hearing about it, yet the D still stinks and no one lost their jobs, where is the accountability there?

    Give me an example. Everyone is playing.

    My gosh coach, on the first series you played 8 diff linemen.

    Everyone is playing. There are different reasons you make changes. Everyone is playing hard. We gotta find a way to get better and that starts with me and Frank. We gotta get everyone more involved.

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    [Caller]: How can you change the mindset of the players to finish strong?

    The mindset is fine. I think we prepare very good and do it good in the week. We just lost 2 tough games in situations where we cant close. Our mindset has been positive. Moving forward, all you can do is stay positive and keep grinding. We're playing great football teams, including the team this week in New York. Have to understand the standard of play right now is not acceptable and gotta fix it.

    Got a 2 headed RB in NY. Stopping the run #1?

    Yeah, big, physical on D. Give you problems from a mental standpoint.

    What strides has Sanchez made?

    I havent watched him much. Any time you play every week, you get experience and are getting better. When he protects the ball, they're successful.

    [Caller]: I realize you're in a tough business, but question is, we feel this O is good enough to be a playoff team. In regards to the D, we spent many #1 picks on D, how many #1 picks will we have to spend? How can we go from #4 to where we are now?

    I'm baffled by that. Talking about draft choices, look at the successful teams in this league. Just because you have #1 picks doesnt mean you'll be good or successful. Our group has a lot of ability. We lost DeMeco but this group has to find a way, new face Kareem and all, gotta find a way as a group to find an idenity and lead it. We are going with the guys we got and they gotta find a way to get it done.

    [Caller]: Tough loss. Fans mad. Beyond the cliches, how do the players get over a tough loss, especially the young guys?

    You have to remember, these guys been doing it their whole life. I'm sure all of them have been through tough times. You'll suffer tough losses in this league. You battle with it. Look at the film. Cant let it soak in. All about doing a job and gotta be man enough.

    Seemed like you had lengthy converstaion after PI on Andre Johnson. Can you explain?

    Not allowed to pick anyone. If running shallow cross route, Andre and WILL LB ran into each other. Hard call to live with. Splitting hairs how deep it happened. Disagreed with the call but we'll see what league says.

    Make sure I understand, the LB can hit the WR in the box but WR cant hit LB?

    Yeah, I belive it's a 5 yard box. It's a judgement call. Were you running a pick or running a route. I thought Andre was running a route.

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    Appreciate the time. Good luck against NY. Thanks again.

    Ok, have a good night.
     
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  17. emjohn

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    Thanks for taking all the time and effort.
     
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  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Thanks, hsf.
     
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  19. MadMax

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    In the 73 games of the Kubiak era....the Texans have held their opponent to 20 points or less just 21 times.
     
  20. DonkeyMagic

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    No doubt the biggest problem of his has been the inability to find adequate personnel to lead the defense in terms of coaching.

    Given a solid defense, even with his questionable and botched playcalling from time to time by Gary, the texans would have made the playoffs last year.

    A good defense will help cover your mistakes as a head coach. As is, Gary has to manage a near perfect offensive game for a chance to win...and that's just too much pressure for one side of the ball
     
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