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[Stop Beating Themselves] Consistency: Turnovers, Rebounding and Defense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Jan 5, 2016.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    The Rockets need to stop beating themselves off the dribble.
     
  2. gumbleton3

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    It is 100% contradictory in the sense that motivation should come intrinsically and as adults who are paid millions of dollars as part of their job, you would hope they would realise this.
     
  3. SF3isBack!!

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    No it's not contradictory at all because I didn't say that. Maybe you were just thinking it. Secondly different things motivate different people and as grown men yes they should be able to find their own motivation. But motivation can also come in the form of a threat from a coach. That threat of course being they can lose their jobs. If they won't hold themselves accountable they need a coach who will.
     
  4. Mathloom

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    You're being a grandfather.

    Those are not the only two ways. They are also not the best ways.

    The best way is to have a coach who knows how to motivate players. Self-motivation is comes with self-achievement, and when you're part of a team it's hard to keep motivated if your teammates are not motivated too. Maybe if these were tennis players who individually control the entirety of their own destiny it would make sense.

    It's time to grow up. This is a new generation of players, they deal with new issues, new defenses, new criticism, new problems at home, etc.

    We need a coach who knows how to motivate 20-something year olds without yelling WHEN THEY BECOME INCAPABLE OF motivating themselves. Today, that's a coach's number one task and the hardest quality to find in a coach. Pop is a grown ass man, he has no problem motivating youngsters because he understands how they want to play, how they have learned to play and he understands that you don't have to pay people a lot of money to get them motivated. He is a hot head who is able to genuinely convince youngsters of potential greatness.

    It's just not going to happen by expecting the players to do it. We can shuffle the players and end up with the same problem soon after. We wish it could happen. But money is a ****ty motivator for any task that requires creativity, in fact studies show it is detrimental to motivation in the most creative tasks. Money is highly motivational when it comes to what I call monkey work - repetitive, rule-based, unimaginitive tasks.

    This is relevant to the NBA as well. Modern NBA offenses require far more creativity than old, playbook-based offenses. That's why money is less and less effective and we need something to replace what was motivating people before.

    New problems, new solutions. Our generation doesn't have to understand the problem/solution, we just have to understand that we don't understand the new generation.
     
  5. SF3isBack!!

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    You are actually not disagreeing with me you are now agreeing with me and calling me a grandfather, lol. I say we need a coach who is a motivator and you say the same thing only it took you several paragraphs to say one thing and I'm the grandfather? Lol ok.
     
  6. jump shooter

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    So basically are you saying that Corey Brewer does not play hard or takes plays off? IMO this team needs a good coach period ie. like when Golden State made the change from Mark Jackson to Steve Kerr. McHale with JBB got them to the WCF and thats probably as far as they were ever going to take this talented squad, but now they need a coach that can take them to the next level IMO. You need a coach that can show Harden how to be a leader.
     
  7. YOLO

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    A Coach does not show a player how to be a leader. Being a leader is not something someone shows you. It's either you are or you're not. The player can learn how to be a leader themselves but some coach is not just going to show you
     
  8. jump shooter

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    I totally disagree.
     
  9. YOLO

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    that's fine but in the game of basketball you are not just shown to be a leader.
     
  10. OddsOn

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    This coincides with the stats I posted here...
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=271459&highlight=oddson
     
  11. JoeBarelyCares

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    Are we getting beat in transition because we are going after offensive rebounds?

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...se-left-offensive-rebounds-cutting-room-floor

    It's also unclear if extra scavenging for second chances is the reason some of these teams hemorrhage fast-break points. The Suns, Kings and Rockets of the past two seasons have all fallen into the category of teams that chase offensive boards and suffer for it on the other end. They also all have terrible habits. Houston's floor balance has been awful all season; corner shooters just chill during James Harden drives, so that if he misses at the rim, four Houston players are below the foul line -- a recipe for fast-break death. The Suns loiter around the paint. DeMarcus Cousins is constantly lollygagging in transition, and the Kings have been a mess for a decade.
     
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  12. YaoMing#1

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    Pls tell me your joking right?

    Did you watch the team last year that won 56 games?

    The high pick and roll up top with JH being set a pick from either DMO or Jsmith was the staple of our offense. And guess what more than half the time it resulted in a pocket pass.

    Our biggest issue right now is we don't have a Pf on offense who can catch the pocket pass take two dribbles and hit a cutter or a guy in either corner for an open 3.

    Defense aside, PF Is this teams biggest weakness josh smith would do wonders for this team or a healthy dmo because we would be able to run last years set play.
     
  13. Dhoward12

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    Offense is 8th in the league in efficiency. Offense can be improved but we score well enough.

    The problem is defense evidenced by the fact before Monday rockets gave up 120 a game in a 4 game losing streak.

    Hou is like dead last in def rebounding %
    Bottom 5 in transition defense
    Bottom 5 in opp allowed fg%
    26th in Defensive efficiency

    Nothing will change until this team starts playing defense consistently throughout a whole game
     
  14. Kash

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    Death, taxes, and the Rockets turning the ball over an inordinate amount of times. Those are the three certainties in life.
     
  15. waihh

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    It is not a talent issue for sure, but this is a huge coaching issue. Will give you several examples.

    Play 1, Rox was down by 2 with about 30 seconds remaining, the ball was brought to the front in slow motion while EVERYONE was walking. It may be a miscommunication about a timeout, but the coach must let everyone know afterwards RUN YOUR BUTT OFF! Or establish some rules so it would not happen ever again.

    Play 2, end of third, about 26 seconds left, Harden had the ball, miscalculated, shot a 3 at about 9 seconds left, missed and the other team had the time to pass 2 times and scored. It's the coach's job to review the video 100 times and tell Harden there is a fixed time that he launches. NO EXCEPTIONS.

    Play 3, Harden iso on top of the key, nobody moves and the opponents, all of us know what's going to happen. Traditionally this kind of iso happens on the sides. Why this is the most used offensive move? It needs to be removed.

    I know it takes a strong coach, but any coach should tell the players, if you don't run back for defense, you sit. Learn from what Pop does all these years. How many times we see one opponent player score 3-4 times because of poor defense. If it happens, the defender sits no matter who he is.
     
  16. Easy

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    These things are so basic you would think that these "professionals" should have learned them years ago and not need a babysitting coach to tell them every damn time.
     

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