I think she might actually be a Christian given the resurrection job she pulled on this thread! (insert wink, corny smile and thumbs up from MadMax here)
I'm an agnostic but if this is true our logic isn't much better. If we are really lucky they were the target's children and they don't grow up to follow in his footsteps, in any case we say we were aiming for the bad guy and by not aiming for children, we claim our pilots are morally off the hook. Whatever one argues, that's hard to swallow from the perspective of whomever is on the receiving end of collateral damage. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...ap_on_re_mi_ea/afghan_attack&cid=540&ncid=716 Kids Dead After U.S. Attack in Afghanistan KABUL, Afghanistan - Nine children were found dead after an American air raid in southern Afghanistan (news - web sites) on Saturday, the U.S. military said. An American A-10 aircraft struck a site south of Ghazni where a "known terrorist" was believed to be hiding at about 10:30 a.m. Saturday, Army Maj. Christopher E. West told The Associated Press. "Following the attack, ground coalition forces searching the area found the bodies of both the intended target and those of nine children nearby," he said. . . .
I think we do. Everything is a continuation. Your birthday is really a continuation day. We just exist in different forms. Nothing comes from nothing. We suffer because we think we are a separate identity from the rest of the universe. See my sig.
I'd like to add some things here: 1) I used to be Iranian. My blood is Iranian, although I'm considered an Arab now because of my nationality, language, etc... Consider these things: Corruption in Iran is very very high, people don't fast, people don't pray, people don't want to believe anymore. In my opinion, Iran is FAR FROM anything labelled ISLAMIC. But that's just my opinion. 2) God forgive me if I write something within the rest of my paragraph that portrays a wrong image. Here's the deal: The Prophet PBUH, was a very very very very very uneducated man, and that's being nice if you know what I mean. He had nothing. Just a poor guy, absolutely NO education, absolutely NO ability to write, and absolutely no way in Hell that he wrote the Qura'an on his own. It's like going to Ethiopia and asking the least educated people there to write a book which includes politics, rules, advice, and SCIENCE. Explain to me how the Prophet PBUH put down everything in Islam, citing all the amazing facts that cool_chick put down for us. Written by man? Give me a break. I believe it's Christianity that is a bunch of recollections, based on what a few holy people remembered and wrote down, all joined together, and completed by man. Please, don't compare that to Islam. For God's sake, there was a FLOATING ROCK mentioned in every Islamic resource, which was floating up until just a few years ago. A floating rock, right next to the Holy Ka'aba in Mecca. What do you need to see to believe? 3) As for sex, there's no way we'll come to an agreement on this. In the Western world, pre-marital sex is normal, and adultery is not really punished. Let me tell you why. Because when you wait 20+ years to have sex, and then you get married and your wife cheats on you, you don't know how much that kills. But if you've had sex 15000 times before marriage and your wife has slept with 15000 other men before you got married, it really won't matter. Argue that point with me, tell me I'm wrong. It's just the way it's meant to be (according to us). I still can't believe the pre-marital sex rate in the States, and am horrified at the thought that you people don't CARE that your wife is not a virgin. Idle hands are the devil's playground my friend. Have sex, stay single longer, and avoid commitment, and we'll see how clean you can stay in that situation. 4) Only Shi'as accept "fantasy marriage". This does NOT hold true for all muslims, not even most. A large part, but absolutely not most. Cool_chick, I'd love to debate this point with you if you have the time. I fail to see how it differs from prostitution, other than that sheet of paper they give you. 5) One thing everyone has to understand is that in Islam, there is a book. There is no doubting this book. There's no such thing is "yeah, but I believe.." You can kiss my ass for all I care. If it's in Islam, it's true, and you know why? Because God said so. Because God had the wisdom to create the universe, so I'll go with his judgement over any of his creations any day. We only use like 4% of our puny brains, how can we accept to understand and figure out the universe? Hence, the great book, which has everything in there and already has all the solutions in there. So if you're a muslim, a true muslim, then you believe what the Qura'an says and you TRY to figure it out. Youd on't decide whether or not it's true, you just TRY to figure out WHY it's true, but always maintain that it's correct, because God is perfect, and if he asked us to follow his religion, then we should just do as he says. How would you liek it if you created a robot, then this robot just decided to do everything it wanted rather than everything you wanted? (Not comparing greatness, just setting example) 6) The Islam clearly states that we were born to worship Allah. Why do everything else? Here's why: You must procreate, so that more people will worship. So here's how it all fits in: You need a wife to procreate. You need a job to support this family. The sooner you can afford to have a family, the better. So then why improve standards you ask? So that your kids can get a betetr job, make more money, have a bigger family, and worship more. You see the cycle? These are the basics of life, everything else fits around this, such as entertainment, sports, hobbies, ambitions, etc... Any questions? cool_chick, e-mail me, I'd love to talk about this stuffw ith you.
brother So you think there’s no difference between the temporary marriage and prostitution ?! have you ever asked yourself this question “ if this kind of relationship is considered as another form of prostitution or adultery then why did the muslim community practiced it during the prophet era ?! and how did god permit it if it's really a form of adultery ? “ I have many points to explain in this regard but I’m sorry I’m quite busy and barely come online to view the board , but we will discuss every single point and every single question you ask but just answer that question before we go further on .
Sane, Islam and all religions are a joke, you really think God, or Allah cares about worship? Give me a break..... Islam, Christianity etc..etc.. all were written by man to control the ignorant masses. Ignorance is bliss I guess. DD
whats between the brackets is originally posted by sane (The Prophet PBUH, was a very very very very very uneducated man, and that's being nice if you know what I mean. He had nothing. Just a poor guy, absolutely NO education, absolutely NO ability to write, and absolutely no way in Hell that he wrote the Qura'an on his own. It's like going to Ethiopia and asking the least educated people there to write a book which includes politics, rules, advice, and SCIENCE.) i wanna say more... sane .. brother... tell him the story of the prophet ( blessings of god be upon him and his folks ) , when ( jibraeel - blessings of god be upon him ) told the prophet to read and he said ma ana biqarie ) , please cuz i dunno how 2 say it in english
Hey you have a right to your opinions. Its our job to tell you. Weather you agree or not is your choice. But please don't go around insulting others religions. This is how fights are started. You wont hear a peep out of me about buddah, jesus, ganesh, moses or any other religious leader. So I would expect the same respect from others. Sane, btw that was an excellent post
i wish that u learn from him someday ( blessings of god be upon him and his folks ) shame on you that you're disrespecting good pple
He is not insulting other religions, just religion. But religion being created by man is not problematic to me, it explains everything. I think all religions is our way of dealing that which trancends all levels of intellectual thought. It is our subconscious breaking through, in some cases becoming personified. It does not make it any less real. There is something bigger than us (that includes us). Trying to come to terms with the ultimate reality is just natural.
Cool_chick, Sorry, I don't read the D&D too often, but let me say that I'm not convinced about the idea of Zawaaj mut3a because I haven't seen any proof of it. I think you'll have a difficult time convincing me because I believe in the Qura'an and a7aadeeth of the Prophet PBUH only. If you can show me any proof of muslims practicing this thing in the Prophet's time with his approval, then I will definitely believe. DaDa, People were alive while the Prophet was still sending the message of Islam, so if he wrote it, are you saying that no one noticed any flaws in it? Why are you ignoring the fact that there are miraculous things written in the Qura'an that no normal human could predict back then? For the love of whatever you believe in, tell me how this uneducated man, this "drunk whino" (astaghfurAllah) scientifically explained the birth of a baby? The growth of trees? The tide and gravity? If you're going to sit here and tell me that you didn't know and didn't bother to find out what each religion constitutes, then you're going to lose credibility from my side. You're sitting here and telling me that all religions were man-made to "control the masses"? Please DaDa don't tell me people thousands of years ago created religions to "control the masses". These people, still trying to invent the damn WHEEL, creeated a way to "control the masses"? Here's the concept, try to understand it: We are too stupid to question the creator of religions. You use 4% of your brain DaDa, are you really that self-centered to think that someone like YOU wrote an entire religion? Please, don't flatter yourself. I suggest you read an interpretation of the Qura'an and then come back here and say to me "Yeah, a human being wrote that." Ofcourse, this is assuming that this guys was a genius and was secretly FULLY EDUCATED. it neglects the fact that the Prophet PBUH was an uneducated man, was not especially smart, and lived in a cave. He used to put a rock on his stomach and lie down when he'd get hungry because he thought it would supress the hunger. You're etlling me this genius human being wrote all that but couldn't think of a way to live anywhere but a cave and put rocks on his stomach to supress his hunger? I know you don't believe in any of the books, but the Prophet was asked to read by the angel Gabriel and he said that he CAN'T and DOESN'T KNOW HOW. If you're not in the mood to read a whole interpretation of the Qura'an I will gladly list you some of these miracles I mentioned along with the exact quotes so that you can verify them with someone else, and then after that tell me with a straight face that you think MORTAL MEN wrote it. After that, we'll have taken a big step and will admit that only a supernatural being could write such things.
OR that is the answer you came to while thinking to yourself one boring day and you just haven't bothered to find out the source of these religions because you thought YOUR idea was just genius? Did you analyze the alternatives? Did you try to verify what devout Christians, Muslims or Jews say about the source of religion?
