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Stoning...Islam.....Stone AGE !!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Sep 25, 2003.

  1. DaDakota

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    Cool chick,

    Yes I am a believer in the creator...

    I am NOT a believer in any of the religions that MAN has created.

    Mohammed was a man....and the books about Mohammed were written by man.

    Therefore they are tainted and not to be believed as gospel. Same as the bible.

    All created by man....but you are free to believe what you want.....if you choose to believe a book written by man to control the masses...go ahead.

    DD
     
  2. cool_chick

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    dakota

    why do we live and then die , why dont we just live forever?
     
  3. cool_chick

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    looks like dakota and panda dont wanna answer me ...fine:D
     
  4. MadMax

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    i just wanna explore this with you...

    so you think it is beyond possibility that an infinite God could use the hand of man to write His own word?? would you be more convinced with a story like the book of mormon, where a man found tablets lying on a hill and then was given some power to translate them???
     
  5. GATER

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    Because nothing in nature exists unchanged indefinitely. Not galaxies, not solar systems. Even at the atomic, there exists the decay of half-life.
     
  6. Cohen

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    Sorry to jump in,

    I think that God could use the hand of man to write his word.

    When we read the word, we must then determine:

    Is it God's words?

    Or is it not. Or is it God's words, with a lot of human words interspersed?

    What do you think?
     
  7. DaDakota

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    I don't know the answer to this,....AND...neither do you !!!!


    Unless you are going to quote some irrelevent text written by man to explain the unexplainable.....

    DD
     
  8. cool_chick

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    If that really is ur answer …

    How come a god creat and mislead his creatures ?
    What kind of gods is he ? ( ast’3firu allah ) that’s if he really didn’t tell us , BUT OF COURSE HE DID .
    Did he create and leave his creatures without a guide? Did he leave us 2 be and 2 do what we want ? no.. why ? …cuz if that was true it means that he’s leaving us 2 do what we want , either its good or bad , so it eamns that he doesn’t care about our safety , and NO god would do that 2 his own creatures , if u want me 2 explain more I will .

    No need 2 understand this – ast’3firu allah – 2 answer me .

    We were created 2 worship , ill tell u what is worship in THE GREAT ISLAM ..

    Its NOT JUST pray , fasten , and pay zakat , no .. examples..

    1-the nice words are worship , but of course if they are w/o hypocrisy , I mean if I say something 2 a person its should NOT be a lie , or JUST 2 make him give me something
    2- advise people 4 what is good and decent
    3- help pple 2 be better
    4- don’t be jealous , don’t hate , ALWAYS pray 4 others’ ( well – perhaps it that’s the word )
    5- be patient , in islam when u become patient , ALLAH THE MOST MERCYFUL gives u (….- I don’t know the word in English but it’s the OPPOSITE of –sins or guilts- )
    6- don’t lie , don’t spy , don’t mistreat pple
    7- don’t steal , don’t be evil , don’t kidnap , don’t spy
    8- respect pple ( depends on the situation )

    now back 2 the subject about god ..

    so u either believe in no god , or believe in the most logical religion .

    any way …folks … just a quick reminder … dakota and samurai DIDN’T answer the question about sex .
     
  9. cool_chick

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    Gater … bro/sis
    I understood most of what u said but I didn’t understand these: ..

    “exists unchanged indefinitely”
    “there exists the decay of half-life”

    even thought I do know the meaning of exists but I got confused in these sentences . can u please tell me ?
     
  10. cool_chick

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    AGREED
     
  11. AMS

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    im sure you have it the other way around. these are few examples of corrupt people. every religion has corrupt and idiotic people
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Very true, it is just that the Muslim religion puts these idiots in charge of their governments.

    DD
     
  13. AMS

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    actually many muslim governments arent chosen and they are monarchies. that is why i do believe much is being changed everydays. there is no religious cleric that rules a country except for the Vatican. NO saudi is not ruled by a religious leader. The king/prince just happens to be a MUSLIM who is incharge. same with jordan, and Egypt,and malaysia none of these are run by idiots as you proclaim

    nd we put the biggest idiot in charge of our country.



    .........
    HE FELL OFF A FREAKING SEGWAY. and CHOKED ON A PRETZEL
     
  14. Rockets2K

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    1) Iran

    2) So what? Having an accident makes you the biggest idiot in a country?
    That really helps you make your point there hoss...:rolleyes:
     
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    1. this country was taken over like the afghans were by the Taliban except they believe in totally different things. i dont even signify them as a government because of all the turmoil and public revolt since they have taken over

    2. just because the segway's sole purpose is so that the person standing on it doesn't fall down, and bush FELL. ive been on one of those, and by god its next to impossible to fall down. and as for the pretzel thing. just a little joke
     
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    Ok, but in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Religious clerics do run quite a bit of the country.

    The "government" is a monarchy, although religion does rule that country. I have lived there since '89.
    the Matawah's (sp) are the religious police who take orders from clerics.
     
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    Yes, you're right, we're in the midst of anarchy and revolution.

    There are many other debatable reasons to be unhappy or disappointed with Bush, but you are really grasping at straws here.
     
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    Disregard that, I misread that part of your post.
     
  19. AMS

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    Mutawa's are a special task force who take orders from the Government. They are there to keep check if anyone is breaking any islamic laws. because the regular police is mostly 10th grade dropouts they needed someone who can interpret the quran and also instill that part of the law... ex: the regular police wont tell anyone to put the volume down on the radio near Mosques during prayer time or whatever, thats the job of te Mutawa's
    and also if women are outside without proper covering(its their job to tell an accompanying male to tell the women to cover up) or if a store is open during prayer times (they will close the store down).

    religion doesnt rule the country its just what the country is based on. almost every religion is based on some sort of religion USA itself was established as a christian country and anything against Christianity was taken seriously. albeit times have changed the way it works now. maybe Middle East countries need the same amount of time.
     
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    was taken over? when?
    AFAIR, Iran has been ruled by the Ayatollahs for most of the 20th century...just because they had a figurehead that was supposedly ruling doesnt mean they were. The Ayatollahs have had the real power.


    I will admit at this point that my memory of world events futher back than the 70's is a little shaky...butwhat I just said has been my understanding of the situation for years.
     

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