1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Stone needs to go

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rvo384, Mar 4, 2025.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    97,539
    Likes Received:
    48,081
    The Core helped but it was Sengün and the whole ensemble that managed the record mostly.

     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    127,881
    Likes Received:
    37,800
    This is just full of crap.....from a passive aggressive hater.

    DD
     
    #162 DaDakota, Mar 31, 2025
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2025
  3. GOATuve

    GOATuve Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2023
    Messages:
    3,365
    Likes Received:
    2,920
    It's an honest assessment
     
    roslolian likes this.
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    127,881
    Likes Received:
    37,800
    LOL wtf ever, it isn't...if you understand context and have a brain.....but it is if you can't read beyond a jr. high level.

    DD
     
  5. GOATuve

    GOATuve Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2023
    Messages:
    3,365
    Likes Received:
    2,920
    No it's accurate. You don't have 'haters'. You post on the internet. You don't matter
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    127,881
    Likes Received:
    37,800
    I have haters like you who hang around and chase me and try to argue...for some odd reason.

    ANyway.....you are right you don't matter.

    DD
     
  7. GOATuve

    GOATuve Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2023
    Messages:
    3,365
    Likes Received:
    2,920
    Sure you do.

    I said that you don't matter. Apparently you can't read
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    127,881
    Likes Received:
    37,800
    Says the guy that was banned and came back under a different name.....

    Wah wah wah.....

    DD
     
  9. GOATuve

    GOATuve Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2023
    Messages:
    3,365
    Likes Received:
    2,920
    Never been banned here. Try again. Also, try not eating for a family of 4
     
  10. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    29,481
    Likes Received:
    19,587
    I'm not a hater I just read all your posts talking about how we should have traded Jalen and all the Nets picks for Mikal Bridges or how you kept complaining how we should have drafted Keegan Murray over Jabari Smith. In fact you were also one of the people who wanted Stone on the hot seat for actually trying to make the Rockets tank prior to last year. So now you are saying how its so easy to tank and build a team when all your previous calls would have been disastrous moves.

    Remember those posts? Just repeating the stuff you said before doesnt make me a hater.
     
    highpost1388 likes this.
  11. BallSoHarden

    BallSoHarden Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2015
    Messages:
    2,890
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    I was expecting this thread to have been from over a year ago, but it is from this month lmao. There is not a single player from the Morey era that would not have loved to be added to this team at any stage in their career. Going from worst record in NBA to 2nd in the West in 2 years, the rest of the league is going to try to follow this same model to rebuild.
     
    A00man, Patience and roslolian like this.
  12. BallSoHarden

    BallSoHarden Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2015
    Messages:
    2,890
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    People bashing Dillon Brooks need to go check out the Grizzles fan forums, they feel like they traded the sole of their team. He was their glue guy, and now look at them, Desmond Bane shoving his own teammate while Ja stands there and laughs, their coach getting fired right before playoffs, and Dillon is loved by his teammates and the whole org in Houston. Grizzles fans say they wished they kept Dillon and traded Bane, they likely would have been better off.

    This team is pretty deep at his position so he is not valued here as much by fans, but he would be a key guy on any playoff team in the league. The guy has showed up, played nearly every game, that type of reliability is rare in this league.
     
  13. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    29,481
    Likes Received:
    19,587
    Crazy right? Apparently anybody can just tank and be a 2nd seed these days..
     
  14. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    97,539
    Likes Received:
    48,081
    I'd be less worried if I've traded the sole and foot of the team.

     
    roslolian, BallSoHarden and theDude like this.
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    127,881
    Likes Received:
    37,800
    The 2nd seed is not the goal - it is a nice indicator we are headed in the right direction, but it is just an indicator nothing to be celebrated too much.

    DD
     
  16. Kevooooo

    Kevooooo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2014
    Messages:
    5,817
    Likes Received:
    4,796
    This thread aged beautifully…in only a month.
     
    roslolian likes this.
  17. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    29,481
    Likes Received:
    19,587
    It is a way better indicator than if Cam Whitmore becomes a good NBA player which seems to be all you care about.
     
  18. Good Times

    Good Times Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2003
    Messages:
    253
    Likes Received:
    362
    I don’t think Rocket fans have ever gone through a rebuild with 18 and 19 year olds and therefore are ready to give up on young players as soon as they have a string of bad games. Francis, Mobley and Yao were rookies at 22. Parsons, Lin and Harden came to the Rockets at 23. Age will make a difference and 18 or 19 yr old rookies will find it harder to adjust. Laker fans hated Kobe probably more than Rocket fans hated Green his first couple of years, Celtic fans would have traded Brown for anyone after his 3rd season, and SGA was considered a throw in when traded to OKC. Living in LA I can still remember when Clippers fans were overjoyed to get Paul while seeing SGA as nothing more than a role player.

    Looking back at this forum, how many were ready to trade Sengun because he will never be able to defend and make Bruno the starter. Or trade Green for a mid to late first round pick because he doesn’t know how to play within an offense. Or trade Amen because he can’t shoot. And now how many are ready to trade Reed as a throw in.

    Judging a GM after a couple of seasons is premature just as it is judging an 18 or 19 year old after a couple of seasons. GMs are suppose to be strategic and unlike coaches they aren’t always looking to win immediately. Stone has gotten us this far in less than 4 years, let’s give him his due for the success this year. He’s probably never satisfied as any GM would be and is looking to build the best team. But trading young players who have gotten the Rockets to #2 could easily kill the momentum and set them back. If there’s a trade, it has to be for a superstar that’s going to get the Rockets to the #1 spot and winning it all. Winning it all doesn’t mean taking chances, it requires calculated decisions. We don’t want to be the Suns and bring in big names, we need to build the right team to start a dynasty.
     
    Scarface and roslolian like this.
  19. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,192
    Likes Received:
    130,045
    I can take or leave Stone honestly.

    He has made some adept moves - and some that were questionable.

    However, a lot of the moves so far were obvious.

    He had to trade Harden - and he got what he got. I think the Sixers deal with Maxey was better but we can debate that.

    He cleared cap space - that was obvious with a rebuild.

    Most of his top draft picks were fairly obvious too.

    He got lucky that we got to keep the pick for Green and it didn't go to OKC.

    The Sengun pick and Eason picks were very good and not as obvious.

    The hiring of Silas was bad, as was the coddling of KPJ.

    Most of the hard/risky moves are yet to be made and those will determine how good Stone is or isn't.

    I don't think you fire him though - they are the #2 seed in the West, and he has drafted and signed the players that have them in that spot.
     
  20. highpost1388

    highpost1388 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2019
    Messages:
    377
    Likes Received:
    770
    Just in general for a rebuild you want things to work out a certain way.

    Acquire young, promising talent: He's done that pretty well by making "obvious picks" as well as finding gems with Tari and Alpi (maybe Cam, we'll see).

    Find the right coach to lead us out of rebuilding and into contention, check.

    Make moves that allow us to continue to acquire young talent for cheap contracts in case we lose one of the young guys to free agency or trade. Check.
     
    roslolian likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now