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STOCK MARKET: Let's talk stocks and investing

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  1. Space Ghost

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    Short it
     
  2. Space Ghost

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    Anyone else jump on the gem? Its up another 14% today in the first 30 minutes.

    Maybe its time to short.... if you're an idiot.

     
  3. Mango

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    “We Note Insider Selling On 10b5-1 Plans Has Rapidly Picked Up, With The CEO Selling Nearly $2B In Stock Over The Last 3 Months And Over $1B In The Last 2 Weeks”

    Palantir (NYSE: PLTR), an AI-powered Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) provider that allows companies and government agencies to gather and analyze reams of data, has been on a tear lately, benefiting not only from the secular AI-related tailwind but also from the incoming Trump presidency and its America-first agenda, which is likely to bolster providers of home-grown AI solutions. Yet, Wall Street appears less enthusiastic about Palantir's immediate prospects. Consider the latest investment note from Jefferies.

    On the flip side, "index/active institutional ownership has increased 4pts/3pts to 25%/27%." Thill believes this shift might reduce Palantir's "retail premium" going forward.

    Also, Thill is particularly concerned about the quantum of insider sales:

    "We note insider selling on 10b5-1 plans has rapidly picked up with the CEO selling nearly $2B in stock over last 3 months & >$1B over last 2 weeks."


    Accordingly, Thill has pegged an 'Underperform' rating on the stock with a stock price target of $28 per share, flagging the stock's "unsustainable premium." For reference, the stock is currently trading at the $61 handle.

    Yet, Wall Street is still concerned, particularly in relation to the stock's meteoric rise. For instance, Jefferies noted today:


    "PLTR is trading at an unsustainable multiple, and insider selling is backing that up. PLTR is up 257% YTD on multiple expansion."

    The analyst went on to note:

    "PLTR trades at 43x CY25 revenue, well over 2x the next highest software name."


    Jefferies analyst Brent Thill also flagged waning retail interest, with retail ownership declining by 7 points to just 42 percent in the aftermath of Palantir's inclusion in the S&P 500 index.

    For the benefit of those who might not be aware, Palantir's financials are as strong as ever. In the just-concluded third quarter, the company brought in $725 million in revenue, beating Wall Street's consensus estimate by 3.1 percent. This number also meant that Palantir's revenue grew at an annual rate of 30 percent. This aligns with Palantir's earlier commitment that it would deliver annual revenue growth of at least 30 percent through 2025.


    On the flip side, "index/active institutional ownership has increased 4pts/3pts to 25%/27%." Thill believes this shift might reduce Palantir's "retail premium" going forward.
    Also, Thill is particularly concerned about the quantum of insider sales:


    "We note insider selling on 10b5-1 plans has rapidly picked up with the CEO selling nearly $2B in stock over last 3 months & >$1B over last 2 weeks."


    Accordingly, Thill has pegged an 'Underperform' rating on the stock with a stock price target of $28 per share, flagging the stock's "unsustainable premium." For reference, the stock is currently trading at the $61 handle.
     
  4. Sajan

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    I put it in the same category as TSLA.
    Cult following.
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    I don't see the appeal. I considered a couple years ago based on thiel.
     
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  6. Sajan

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    supposedly their AIP platform is the nEXt BeST thing..
     
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  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    Where do you guys read about these new low market cap companies
     
  8. Space Ghost

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    Which low market cap companies are you referring to?
     
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    The kind to make it as Fortune 500 later lol
     
  10. Mango

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    You need special implants to get that information.

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  11. Dr of Dunk

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    Or you could've probably just bought the best-performing stock on the S&P 500 to-date that nobody talks about in this thread (boring ol' Vistra) which has quadrupled so far this year. That's a better return than NVDA, PLTR, etc.

    Come to think of it, out of the top maybe 15 stocks in the S&P 500 so far this year, I think only about 2 or 3 get talked about here. Electric and uranium companies have been hot for months because somebody's got to feed those run-ups in data center/chip/tech companies. I keep telling y'all - you need to branch out. Or, if you just want to buy the S&P 500 as a whole, you'd be up around 25% so far this year.
     
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  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    nah breh...we wants teh NVDA, TSLA over like 10 years ago, but before they were kewl and mainstream
     
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  13. Space Ghost

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    SpaceX and anything Musk related. Invest, but not full on foolish. The fool is running our country and he is setting up his legacy for decades to come. He will rank up there with Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, and Edison. Its irrelevant of who likes him.

    Very few people thought Tesla would become the company it is today. Model 3 proved it could be done.
    NVidea is a long squeeze. FAFO.
    Bitcoin has been obvious since 2018.
    Few knew about Gamestop before the hedgefunds fully understood the game and lined up for the squeeze.

    MicroStrategy is unique. Its a combination play against the US Dollar and Bitcoin. Imagine if you had a rule in Monopoly where you started with $0 but allowed you to borrow money from the bank indefinitely at zero percent, however you had to pay the bank back 50% profits and the full value after 50 turns. The person who is bad at math (which is most money in investments, thus why they use financial advisors) will be afraid of the risk and instead keep circling the board to earn their $200 to buy property. Meanwhile the risk taker will buy up all the land, load it up with houses and bankrupt the other players in no time. But the flywheel effect is this - Unlike monopoly, we dont take the player out of the game (put them in jailor or whatever cruel punishment for being a loser is). Instead, since the bank never runs out of money (like Monopoly), the bank just bails them out and gives them $2000.00 or whatever to restart the game at zero. Thus, the bank eventually starts paying for the player to play. And those who own the hard assets will continue to receive indefinite dividends.

    This is MSTR Stats. We don't give a **** about price per share, share values, NAV or any of that other nonsense.
    MSTR Holdings
    BTC Balance:331,200 BTC
    BTC Holdings Value:$31.410B
    Ownership of 21M BTC:1.58%
    Avg Cost per BTC:$49,874.00

    Whats important to understand is the equity value in the company. So that is (Current Price Per Bitcoin)*(holdings) which is $31.4B. Now note how much it cost to buy that asset (Avg Cost per BTC) * (Current Holdings) which is 16.5B. That is about 15B in the green. And that is before Bitcoin 3x's. If Bitcoin does 3x like predicted, then that puts MSTR around 88B in the green. There is only 6 other companies who have that much green. So at 16.5B, they could buy an additional 173k bitcoin @95k bitcoin. But why buy at 95k when you could have bought crazy options several months ago at 40k. This play will continue until someone else big steps in the game.(Governments). The entity that is able to accumulate bitcoin at a faster steady rate will spell the end to MSTR. And only the US government can do that.

    Edit: Any purchase totaling less than a billion in USD is irrelevant. Soon that will be 10 billion
     
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    It is a joke. Do the opposite of whatever cramer says. Tesla stock is super overvalued, but the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
     
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    Ignore him. For someone who dishes out sarcasm, he doesn't get it.
     
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    Agree. It took me years of bad investing trying for the home runs before I learned that the best way to make money is don't lose money.
     
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  17. Sajan

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    Are we going in on the GOOG dip?
     
  18. Sajan

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    As if BTC is not risky enough, buy a proxy and give your money to one dude so he can buy BTC for himself.
    smh.
     
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  20. Space Ghost

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    What are your thoughts?

    I do love watching Bitcoin Maxi's lose their **** over the MSTR trade.

    It wont last forever but I do believe there will be a massive run up, potentially a 1T market cap in the next 2-4 years (if we hit GME stupidity). BTC has a massive tail wind. MSTR has the largest BTC reserve. That in itself is very valuable and the stock's premium will continue to rise as long as they are accumulating faster than anyone else. Blackrock and the US government will eventually outpace them.
     
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