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STOCK MARKET: Let's talk stocks and investing

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  1. Mango

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    100% agreed here. Good stuff.
     
  3. Mango

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    After the dust startled to settle in Late 2008, the MLP Sector had a good run. As the Rally took off in Spring 2009, the attention shifted to Techs, Small Capps and Financials.

    Robbie has also mentioned in this thread interest in defensive sectors. With recent events in the Market, there will likley be some who will ease back and settle for lower Beta sectors that have more stability.

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    Let me link to a few things and then proceed.

    If one is interested in NASDAQ-100 related, then keep an eye on Apple, Microsoft, Qualcomm, Google, Cisco, Oracle and Intel.

    NASDAQ-100 (sorted by percentage weight in the Index).

    Code:
    Apple Inc.
    Microsoft Corp.
    QUALCOMM Inc.
    Google Inc. (Cl A)
    Cisco Systems Inc.
    Oracle Corp.
    Intel Corp.
    Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. (ADS)
    Amazon.com Inc.
    Research In Motion Ltd.
    Gilead Sciences Inc.
    Comcast Corp. (Cl A)
    Celgene Corp.
    Amgen Inc.
    Starbucks Corp.
    Express Scripts Inc.
    DIRECTV
    eBay Inc.
    News Corp. (Cl A)
    Paccar Inc.
    Baidu Inc. (ADS)
    Genzyme Corp.
    Adobe Systems Inc.
    Bed Bath & Beyond Inc.
    Biogen Idec Inc.
    Automatic Data Processing Inc.
    Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp.
    Sears Holdings Corp.
    Vodafone Group PLC (ADS)
    Intuit Inc.
    Symantec Corp.
    Intuitive Surgical Inc.
    Broadcom Corp.
    Costco Wholesale Corp.
    priceline.com Inc.
    Activision Blizzard Inc.
    Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
    NetApp Inc.
    Wynn Resorts Ltd.
    Dell Inc.
    Staples Inc.
    CA Inc.
    Yahoo! Inc.
    First Solar Inc.
    Altera Corp.
    Paychex Inc.
    Citrix Systems Inc.
    C.H. Robinson Worldwide Inc.
    Life Technologies Corp.
    Fiserv Inc.
    Mattel Inc.
    Applied Materials Inc.
    Xilinx Inc.
    SanDisk Corp.
    Seagate Technology Inc.
    Millicom International Cellular S.A.
    Linear Technology Corp.
    Apollo Group Inc. (Cl A)
    NVIDIA Corp.
    Expeditors International of Washington Inc.
    Liberty Media Holding Corp. Interactive (Series A)
    BMC Software Inc.
    Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.
    Autodesk Inc.
    Fastenal Co.
    Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
    KLA-Tencor Corp.
    Warner Chilcott Plc
    Cerner Corp.
    Ross Stores Inc.
    Sigma-Aldrich Corp.
    Garmin Ltd.
    Expedia Inc.
    Mylan Inc.
    Flextronics International Ltd.
    NII Holdings Inc.
    OReilly Automotive Inc.
    Infosys Technologies Ltd. (ADS)
    Electronic Arts Inc.
    Urban Outfitters Inc.
    Maxim Integrated Products Inc.
    Virgin Media Inc.
    Joy Global Inc.
    Henry Schein Inc.
    Lam Research Corp.
    Qiagen N.V.
    Stericycle Inc.
    Dentsply International Inc.
    Cintas Corp.
    Illumina Inc.
    Flir Systems Inc.
    VeriSign Inc.
    Hologic Inc.
    DISH Network Corp. (Cl A)
    J.B. Hunt Transport Services Inc.
    Cephalon Inc.
    Microchip Technology Inc.
    Foster Wheeler AG
    Patterson Cos. Inc.
    Logitech International S.A.
    
    If one is interested in the stocks of the S&P 500, here is a list of the Top 100 stocks (sorted by percentage weight in the Index).

    Code:
    1	ExxonMobil
    2	Microsoft
    3	Apple
    4	General Electric
    5	Procter & Gamble
    6	Johnson & Johnson
    7	Bank of America
    8	JPMorgan Chase
    9	Wells Fargo
    10	IBM
    11	Chevron
    12	AT&T
    13	Cisco Systems
    14	Pfizer
    15	Berkshire Hathaway
    16	Coca-Cola
    17	Google
    18	Intel
    19	Wal Mart
    20	Hewlett Packard
    21	PepsiCo
    22	Merck
    23	Oracle
    24	Philip Morris International
    25	ConocoPhillips
    26	Verizon Communications
    27	Citigroup
    28	Abbott Labs
    29	Goldman Sachs
    30	Schlumberger
    31	McDonalds
    32	Occidental Petroleum
    33	United Technologies
    34	Disney
    35	United Parcel Service
    36	QUALCOMM
    37	3M
    38	Home Depot
    39	Amgen
    40	Comcast
    41	Kraft Foods
    42	Boeing
    43	American Express
    44	CVS/Caremark
    45	U.S. Bancorp
    46	Medtronic
    47	Altria
    48	Amazon
    49	Bristol-Myers Squibb
    50	Target
    51	Colgate-Palmolive
    52	Morgan Stanley
    53	Caterpillar
    54	Ford Motor
    55	Lowe's Cos.
    56	EMC
    57	Visa
    58	Emerson Electric
    59	Bank of New York Mellon
    60	Union Pacific
    61	Lilly (Eli)
    62	Time Warner
    63	Gilead Sciences
    64	Walgreen
    65	UnitedHealth Group
    66	DirecTV Group
    67	MetLife
    68	Honeywell International
    69	PNC Financial Services
    70	Dupont
    71	Monsanto
    72	Apache
    73	News Corp.
    74	Texas Instruments
    75	Dow Chemical
    76	Freeport-McMoran C&G
    77	Anadarko Petroleum
    78	Devon Energy
    79	Southern
    80	NIKE
    81	Exelon
    82	Corning
    83	General Dynamics
    84	Baxter
    85	Prudential Financial
    86	Express Scripts
    87	Celgene
    88	Medco Health Solutions
    89	Newmont Mining
    90	FedEx
    91      XTO Energy
    92	Dell
    93	Lockheed Martin
    94	EOG Resources
    95	Kimberly-Clark
    96	Travelers
    97	Costco Wholesale
    98	Halliburton
    99	Simon Property Group
    100	eBay
    
    
    <i>Quick Rules of Thumb</i> are that the Top 50 stocks represent 50% of the weight in the S&P 500 and the Top 100 100 stocks represent 66% of the weight. The percentages fluctuationas Market Caps change, but the 50% and 66% values are fairly consistent.


    Finally, the stocks in the Dow Index (sorted by percentage weight in the Index).

    Code:
    1 	 IBM	  	
    2 	 3M		
    3 	 Chevron	
    4 	 United Technologies		
    5 	 McDonalds		
    6 	 Boeing		
    7 	 ExxonMobil		
    8 	 Johnson & Johnson		
    9 	 Caterpillar		
    10 	 Procter & Gamble		
    11 	 Coca-Cola		
    12 	 Wal Mart		
    13 	 Travelers		
    14 	 Hewlett Packard		
    15 	 JPMorgan Chase		
    16 	 American Express		
    17 	 Dupont		
    18 	 Merck		
    19 	 Home Depot		
    20 	 Disney		
    21 	 Kraft Foods		
    22 	 Microsoft		
    23 	 Verizon Communications		
    24 	 AT&T		
    25 	 Cisco Systems		
    26 	 Intel		
    27 	 General Electric		
    28 	 Pfizer		
    29 	 Bank of America		
    30 	 Alcoa	
    
    I will now touch on a few key stocks and how they have performed since March 2009.

    XOM (ExxonMobil) is roughly Flat in performance.
    MSFT (Microsoft) has had a nice run.
    AAPL (Apple) is Up huge.
    GE (General Electric) is Up huge.
    PG (Proctor & Gamble) is Up.
    JNJ (Johnson & Johnson) is Up.
    BAC (Bank of America) is Up huge.
    JPM (JP Morgan Chase) is Up nicely.
    WFC (Wells Fargo) is Up huge.
    IBM (IBM) is Up.
    CVX (Chevron) is Up.
    T (AT&T) is Up slightly.
    CSCO (Cisco) is Up nicely.
    BRK-B (Berkhire Hathaway) is new to the Index.
    KO (Coca-Cola) is Up.
    GOOG (Google) is Up nicely, but down over $100 from an earlier high.
    INTC (Intel) is Up nicely.
    WMT (Walmart) is roughly Flat.
    HPQ (Hewlett Packard) is Up nicely
    PEP (PepsiCo) is Up.
    MRK (Merck) is Up nicely.
    ORCL (Oracle) is Up nicely.
    PM (Phillip Morris) is Up.
    COP (Conoco Phillips) is Up nicely.
    VZ (Verizon) is roughly Flat.
    C (Citigroup) is Up huge and somewhat fortunate to still be in business.
    ABT (Abbott Labs) is Up slightly.
    GS (Goldman Sachs) is Up huge even with its troubles over the past several weeks.

    Those 29 stocks represent almost 40% of the weight in the S&P 500.

    The financial related names of:

    GE *
    BAC
    JPM
    WFC
    C
    GS

    have all had good runs and things will likley get more difficult for them going into the future.

    The Tech stocks of:

    MSFT
    AAPL
    CSCO
    GOOG
    INTC
    ORCL
    HPQ

    have all had good runs, but it could be argued that they have gotten too far ahead of themselves and deserve some rest.

    That leaves the boring soild stocks such as:

    XOM
    PG
    JNJ
    IBM
    CVX
    T
    BRK-B
    KO
    WMT
    PEP
    MRK
    PM
    ABT
    COP

    who have had a mixed bag of both success and quite Flat performance over the past 14 months. For the most part, they haven't been among the Leaders since March 2009 and are heavy on comsuner names which will still be impacted some with the unemploment rate over 9%.

    For the Market to regain previous levels, it will take the earlier leadership of the Tech stocks like: MSFT, AAPL, CSCO, GOOG, INTC, HPQ, ORCL and the financial names like: GE * , BAC, JPM, WFC, C, GS to do most of the work of <i>moving the numbers </i>.

    It is doubtful the boring solid stocks like: XOM, PG, JNJ, IBM, CVX, T, BRK-B, KO, WMT, PEP, MRK, PM, ABT, COP will be able <i>move the numbers</i>. If the energy names of XOM, COP and CVX start to outperform the rest of the Market, then it is likely that we are in a period of sustained higher energy prices which could impact sales & profits for stocks like WMT, KO, PEP.


    I will try to work some more on this Sunday night.

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    * The troubles with the lending unit is why I included it with the financial sector stocks.
     
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  4. robbie380

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    Boom!

    trillion dollar EU bailout package....dow futures up 225 right now.

    lol this is an amazing start I am having at my new firm.
     
  5. thelasik

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    This is absolutely nuts.
     
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    How so?
     
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    Do you guys think it is too late to buy into Pepsi (PEP)? They are up $ 14 in one year and 3 YTD.

    I am obviously just starting out and would like anyones feedback with knowledge on the company or if you own it.
     
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    So we have reached the 1160-80 area in an unanticipated manner. Therefore I am adjusting my trading parameters and expectations. If we would have rallied over 2 weeks to this point, I would be loading up a short position. However, the fact that we are here in 3 days means things are not playing out according to plan, therefore the plan must be adjusted. I will still be putting on a short here, but very small. And depending on how we react to 1180, I will either be adding or covering. Some traders and hedge fund managers I talk to tell me how strange the market is trading. I see this as well, so I am opening myself up to the possibility of anything. I am not ruling out scenarios completely outside my expectations, such as a total capitulation of the shorts, driving us straight to 1300 or even 1400.

    For a fact I know a "fundamental" based hedge fund manager put on a large short position last Friday going into the weekend. I also know he is not the only one. When he told me this I was completely flabbergasted, as we were then trading at historic oversold levels. I posted on here that it would not be a bad long at all, for a trade. These guys however do not look at technicals what so ever. They trade based on fundamental news, and were short on Greece/sovereign debt. If we start to trade above 1180, I would not be surprised if these guys get completely blown out of the water, and become the impetus for a move much higher. However irrational that may be.

    The fact is, for "TRADING", you have to throw rationality out the window. Along with prejudice, bias, opinion. You also can never assume you "know", as the market will always surprise.
     
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    TIVO is getting mauled!
     
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    and HAUP is on a tear. :eek:
     
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    not happy with myself for not laying into it short when that news came out. :eek: it was still hanging around 13 and going lower and i heard the news and they said the opinion of the court was vacated. so i looked up that legal term to make sure that it meant what i thought it did....and it did. but i just sat here like a tard and did nothin. :eek: bad mistake.
     
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    So much for that European bailout euphoria! It's nice to have some volatility back.
     
  14. Mango

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    Robbie,

    You mentioned looking at various things such as the MLP sector.

    Do you pursue the MLP trades as:

    1 Swing Longs with some type of strategy tied to energy price movements?

    2. Based on Quarterly Distribution timing?

    3. Oversold and mean reversion?

    4. Strictly Day Trades?
     
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    Are others looking for Longs or are expecting more action to the Downside?
     
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    Look out below, Mangeaux
     
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    Guess I should update my positions in this thread.

    My Post last year about Gold and Silver in this thread.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=4538263&postcount=3059

    Sold my shares of UGL on the 12th.

    Bought them $32.89 at and sold at $56.31 to walk away with 71% profit in a year. Still holding on to some of my other stuff and just reinvested in another set of stuff.
     
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    lol. I can't stop laughing after reading that line.
     
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    You like my stuff? lol
     
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    they were just trades. didn't work out as well as i hoped with the euro blowing up and taking down oil and all that jazz.


    btw....now i am checking out these MTL preferreds. very strange issue and it almost seems too good to be true. basically, they are paying out 20% of profits towards the div on the preferreds. they just started trading on the 7th and few shares ended up being offered and they priced much lower than their original offering price due to the crappy mkt.

    anyhow, i know they are russian (something that can freak out a lot of investors), but the 138 million preferred shares receive voting rights if the MTL board decides not to pay the annual dividend. also, the preferreds are being offered by the people who got bought out by MTL in early 2009. some west va coal company. something intriguing to look at. it could simply be mispriced or people just don't believe that this thing could actually yield that much since it is a russian company. anyhow, that is the basic rundown of it and here is the prospectus if you guys want the whole story on it.

    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1302362/000095012310046689/y06164be424b4.htm

    maybe pippen can chime in with his thoughts.
     

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