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STIMULUS WATCH: $25 check may cost you food stamps

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by juicystream, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. BigBenito

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    You're comparing a twinky/cola and rice/bean diet, and complaining about how unhealthy the rice/bean diet is?

    Maybe I should read this thread. It apparently turned interesting.

    (I bought a 25 pound bag of jasmine rice for 17 dollars a week ago... I know I should eat brown rice, but I honestly can't stand the stuff.)
     
  2. SamFisher

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    they're both really unhealthy.
     
  3. pirc1

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    What you don't buy the 50 lb bags? :eek:
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    When people say its hard to eat healthy for cheap, i think they are mainly referring to eating out. Fresh vegetables like celery, and tomatos are not that expensive. also the below article mentions brown rice which for the life of me I don't understand why people don't eat more of it, including myself. the article also mentions froze vegetables.

    I do think when you are projecting some of the prices out for a family, let's tuna for instance, then it can become fairly pricy.


    eating healthy on a budget

    CBS) In these tough economic times, it's not hard to eat healthy and still be on a budget.

    Registered dietician and Early Show contributor Keri Glassman showed on Tuesday how to get maximum nutrition for minimum cost -- and she put recipes where her advice is!

    She pointed to five food groups that can save you big bucks at the grocery store while still providing nutritious, tasty meals. Inexpensive food doesn't have to be unhealthy food, Glassman proved.

    The five groups are: brown rice, frozen produce, canned fish, eggs, and beans.

    BROWN RICE

    Brown rice is a whole grain, high in manganese (useful for energy production, and an antioxidant) and selenium (an antioxidant, helps prevent colon cancer), as well as important B vitamins (Thiamin and Niacin, which are lost when refined).

    The benefits of choosing whole grains over refined grains are numerous. To name a few: weight loss, increased satiety, stabilizing blood sugar, cancer prevention, prevention of heart disease.

    Rice is a very versatile; it can be used in soups and stews, stir-fries, beans and rice, rice salad, rice pilaf, rice and bean cakes, rice pudding, and even healthy fried rice.

    Serving size: 1/4 cup, uncooked
    Price per serving: around 10 cents
    Nutrition per serving: 150 cals, 1 g fat, 1 g fiber, 3 g pro, 4 percent Daily Value Iron, 10 percent Daily Value Thiamin, 10 percent Daily Value Niacin

    FROZEN PRODUCE

    Did you know frozen fruits and veggies are just as nutritious, if not more nutritious, than the fresh fruits and vegetables in the produce section?

    Frozen fruits and veggies are processed at peak ripeness, blanched (which causes minimal loss of soluble vitamins B (thiamin) and C, then flash-frozen, all within hours of being picked.

    "Fresh" produce found in grocery stores, on the other hand, is picked before it is completely ripe, so isn't given a chance to fully develop all of its nutrients, then shipped to its destination. In that time, it's exposed to oxygen, heat, and light, which results in the loss of important vitamins, specifically vitamins B (Thiamin) and C.

    You can use frozen produce in soups, stews, stir-fries, side dishes, and more. Try saute spinach with garlic, cauliflower mashed potatoes, or a vegetarian pasta dish.

    Frozen fruit: Add this to muffins and/or pancake mix; use in smoothies; blend and heat for a topping for pancakes, waffles, yogurt, or oatmeal; top warm berries with a dollop of frozen yogurt or whipped cream.

    Serving size: 1 cup
    Price per serving: 33 cents (broccoli), 90 cents (strawberries)
    Nutrition per serving:
    Overall fruits and veggies: good source of vitamins A and C and fiber, and low in calories, and fat-free
    Broccoli (1 cup): 24 cals, 0 fat, 2 g fiber, 2 g pro, 10 percent DV Vit A, 2 percent DV Calcium, 60 percent DV Vit C, 2 percent DV lron
    Strawberries (314 cup): 50 cals, 0 fat, 2 g fiber, 60 percent DV Vit C, 4 percent DV lron

    CANNED FISH (TUNA, SALMON, SARDINES)

    All great sources of omega-3 fatty acids shown to reduce risk of heart disease, blood clots, arthritis, cancer, heart disease, and high blood pressure. Can also help with weigh loss, provide satiety, and support a healthy metabolism.

    Add to pasta dishes, use in tuna/salmon salad, fish cakes, salad toppings, add to omelets, add to grilled cheese.

    Serving size: 3 oz.
    Price per serving: around 62 cents
    Canned Tuna: Overall high in protein and high in omega 3 fatty acids
    Nutrition per serving: 60 calories, 0.5 g fat, 13 g pro, 8 percent DV B6, 20 percent DV B12, 2 percent DV Iron, 20 percent DV Niacin, 8 percent DV Phosphorus

    EGGS

    High in protein, low in carbohydrates, source of brain-boosting choline, cheap, and easy to use. The yellow of the egg does contain cholesterol, so if you're watching your cholesterol, limit your consumption of the yellow (yolk); otherwise, the white can be eaten all day long!

    Eggs can be used to make frittatas, omelets, egg salad, sliced on top of crackers, and hard-boiled with a little salt and pepper as a snack.

    Serving size: 1 Large egg
    Price per serving: 19 cents
    Nutrition per serving: whole egg: 70 cals, 4.5 g fat, 6 g pro, 6 percent Vit A, 2 percent Calcium, 4 percent DV Iron; egg white: 17 calories, 0 fat, 3.6 g pro

    DRY BEANS

    Beans are a very versatile legume. They're good for your heart, and that's not all! Beans are low in calories and high in fiber, protein, and iron; they're a great meat substitute! The fiber in beans can help lower your cholesterol, keep you regular, remove toxic, cancer-causing substances from your digestive tract, and help keep your blood sugar stable. Plus, research has shown vegetarians to have a lower risk of cancer than carnivores or omnivores; we're not suggesting you go completely vegetarian, but replacing one-to-two typically meat/poultry-based meals per week with a vegetarian meal may reduce your risks!

    Uses: bean burritos/quesadillas, beans and rice, bean salad, topping on salads, vegetarian bean chili, purred white bean soup, plus add to soups, stews, or serve as a side dish on its own

    Serving size: 1/4 cup uncooked
    Price per serving: Average 14 cents
    Nutrition per serving: 70 cals, 0 g fat, 15 g fiber, 9 g pro, 4 percent DV Calcium, 15 percent DV Iron
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    I feel like I'm on The Price Is Right reading through this thread.

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    "An 8.8 ounce bag of Uncle Bens Rice. See how easy Uncle Ben's makes adding rice to a meal. Uncle Ben's - where Ben knows best."

    "SamFisher, the retail price for this product is $2.39. Do you guess higher or lower?"

    [audience]

    "HIGHER!! HIGHER!! LOWER!! LOWER!!"
     
  6. pirc1

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    Brown rice maybe healthy but they taste awful. What I do is mix them with regular rice when cooking.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    or a cargo pallat of twinkies, he can forklift them home
     
  8. deepblue

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    That's an interesting article except it doesn't say anything about rice being the cause of heart disease increase.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    That's because rice doesn't cause heart disease.
     
  10. deepblue

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    Exactly
     
  11. juicystream

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    Fresh tomatoes kill me. I hate tomatoes, but my wife loves them. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if she would just accept the 98 cent slicing tomatoes, but she has to have the $2.50 container of grape tomatoes.
     
  12. juicystream

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    It has become Hangout worthy, especially considering that politics have stayed out of it.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    But Asians still get it in large and increasing numbers.
     
  14. MoonDogg

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  15. fmullegun

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    Because anyone on a tight budget who buys rice for 2.40 a half pound is an idiot. 20-25 pound bags of rice are readily available at ANY grocery store. Unlike pallets of twinkies, which I doubt even drops the price much.
     
  16. fmullegun

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    Rice and beans = twinkies and cola

    Pure awesome!

    Lets see

    Complex carbs vs. corn syrup
    little to no processing vs. mass chemicals and preservatives, dyes
    lean source of protein vs. little to no protein
    great source of fiber (lowers LDL) vs no fiber

    Cola also

    Kills kids teeth
    Has phosphorus which pulls calcium from the bones
    caffeine
     
  17. juicystream

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    What are you trying to say? You think white is normal, while those brown ones are freaks? :p
     
  18. fmullegun

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    Tomatoes are pretty expensive. They are not what I would choose for good healthy food on a really tight budget. You would be better off with cheaper stuff like greens or carrots possibly.

    Tuna is still super cheap for a family. 3 cans could provide all the protein for an entire family for ~2 bucks.

    Brown rice is kinda over rated. It got a ton of hype for its low glycemic index but that only matter if you eat it by itself. If you add a protein the insulin response is totally shifted and the difference is nill.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    You're very unlikely to see a 25-lb sack of rice in most NYC grocery stores - it's about as available as a crate of twinkies.
    Again - if you are arguing that a carb-packed diet revolving around 20lb sacks of rice is the path to a healthy lifestyle this is laughable.
     
  20. BigBenito

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