He went from a no-talent team in Cleveland to a team loaded with talent, but said talent was playing for contracts and had zero chemistry. Given the production that Miller has had with the two biggest joke-teams in the NBA, I'd certainly give him the benefit of the doubt to come play with a real franchise.
Is anybody else taken aback by the Steve Francis, Houston Rockets GM concept? Sign # 1,345,983 that the organization has no clue?
When we traded for the Chuckster, I don't think he was nessicarly the Rockets biggest fan. Like Miller, Barkley just wanted to get away from the team he was on. Most of what HoopsWorld reports on are fabricated lies. They were the ones that said the Rockets should pick up Wilcox rather than Yao.
Andre Miller disappears in too many games, and plays with zero fire. I pass, if I am the GM. Furthermore, if Steve moves to SG, we need a defensive animal at PG, like Payton.
I've had three guards in mind since mid season. Brent Barry (Old yes. But a veteran big 1 or 2 guard, that can score and run the floor; 6'6". They guy can play the point with no problem.). Jason Terry (Sold ball handler, off the dribble passing, and a very good scorer. Small though; 6'2"). Andre Miller (The best passer of the three. Smart scoring 1 guard. Small though; 6'2"). My favorite. Brent. But Andre would be my second. He has almost 6.7 APG and 2.58 TOPG. With the Rockets he could get around 8APG with 3.5 TOPG. Not bad!
How about a 3 way trade with Alvin Williams and the Clips' #2 going to us, Dre going to Toronto (S & T for about 7 mil year) and Cat and TMo and Tor's #2 going to the Clips. Toronto gets a more explosive PG who can penetrate and dish to shooters, we get a pass first, defensive oriented PG who can guard SGs + a low-mid 2nd round pick, and the Clips get a good SG at a great price and buddy to Odom + Tmo (decent but cheap 2nd round pick player) + a slightly lower 2nd round pick (almost a late first round pick at 2nd rounder cost). Seems pretty fair all the way around to me.
Miller and Francis, that would be worst defensive backcourt in the league, and threat from the 3 to help the doubles on Ming would be very ordinary.
Hoopsworld, once again, is full of ****. I'd like to see a Dre for Mobes trade though, and I do think it's possible. Try to fleece them of Maggoty while they are at it. and no, I don't think LA would deal Odom or Brand for what we'd be offering.
why do people want a PG who can't shoot 3's?? we need shooters!!! dre ain't gonna make people not double yao or clog the lane when steve drives. give me someone like freakin derek fisher. bring the ball up the floor, then get the F out the way while the stars do the work and you hang around the arc and kill people with 3 pointers. same way we did with hakeem, same way the lakers do it with shaq/kobe, same way we should do it with yao/steve. we already played last year with 2 non-shooters (eg/posey) starting, now we're gonna have 3? yeah no one will ever double yao now. and either posey better shoot like he did in april or nachbar better learn. and if we can, get a freakin robert horry clone at PF. good D and 3's, that's my dream for our PF, but i don't see that happening.
Hoopsworld is weak.. they would make anything up just to get some hits... and Francis hates Dre.... come on.. but im sure he wouldnt mind Dre comin in because Steve would love to play the 2 guard.
Brent barry is not old. he's 29. that is a great age for a good guard. however, the sonics just traded away their main man point guard. they don't need cuttino. they have allen andre. dre could be good. he was like bibby before bibby went to sac. i think he was just in a bad situation in LA. it seems improbable, but the clippers are the one team where an improbable trade seems likely. lets wait for the playoffs to end. a lot of playoff teams have big issues too. pistons, hornets, portland, and utah come to mind. even the lakers might be revamping their roster if they lose, fisher ain't bad. there could be some pretty sweet deals out there so we shouldn't be limited to the bad teams in dealing. i'm gonna rant here, but i think down the line, stevie will come through for us. i mean, we have to have faith in some aspects of the rockets, right? we may all be dreaming too hard about landing another superstar in houston. it may simply take steve and yao picking up the rockets and carrying them on their shoulders a la KG. when i was a kid, i remember the rockets screwing up royally all the time. from 87-93 we self destructed many times (at least it was in the playoffs though)
There are not many PG that CAN shoot the 3. Besides, I would rather have a PG that can handle the ball and pass, than a PG that can shoot the 3, but sucks at handling the ball and passing. Also, Don't use Fisher as an example. He has Shaq. A PG with passing skills, is not the same as "dumping it down to Shaq."
The best thing we can do is trade Mobley this offseason. He just refuses to pass. We could try to trade Mobley for Alvin Williams or Crawford, then pick up Jon Barry from FA's. PG - Williams (Crawford)/ Steve / Jon Barry SG - Steve / Jon Barry / Jaquin SF - Posey / Nachbar / Tmo PF - Griff / Mo Tay / Tmo C - Yao / Cato Most people want to trade Griff right now, but I think he still has a lot of potential. I think if Steve could just convince him to play with fire, his lack of post offense would be made up w/ hustle.
so the guy who blended into the offense more and more this season, who improves every year, the guy who can shoot, create on his own if needed, plays good man to man D, and plays with fire, trade him. the guy who can't shoot, doesn't play good man to man, doesn't play with fire, and didn't really improve this year, hold onto him b/c that'll all just correct itself. great.
isn't that the point i'm trying to make? we don't need someone with great passing skills or pure PG skills, since he can just "dump it down to yao" or hand it off to steve. he just needs to be competent, get the ball up the court, and then hit the open 3's our offense seems good at generating. right now, we have no one but cuttino and a can-barely-play-half-the-game rice to hit them.
Please!!! Remember...its Mobley! The guy that never passes and takes all these crazy shots! Anyways...we need shooters? He is average from behind the arc. But he is all right inside. I would trade him fo Mobley. And I would also get a shooter. Quentin Richardson or Eric Piatkowski. Both can shoot just as good or better than Mobley. I still would like him if we can get him.
If you can get any of those players, have at it. And it would be nice to have Tracy McGrady too! "Great passing skills or Pure PG skills?" Huh? All I'm saying is PG skills! Competent PG skils. NOt great, not pure. Francis does NOT have compentent PG skills. He plays a PG, with bad PG skills. When he plays a 2guard, he has decent passing skills....for a 2guard! If you can bring in a competent PG, that can also shoot the 3. Then have at it! Go get'em! But we don't have much to chose from. By the way, my guy, Brent Barry was 12th in the league in 3pt % (.40). Miller is not that good. True. Jason Terry is around .370. Also... If you want a player to dump it down to Yao, you can have any player can do that. Rice, Nachbar, Hawkings, Francis, Posey... Also, a "dump it down to Yao and kick it out to the 3-point shooter" offense is fine. But if that's going to be our only use of Yao, then you can KEEP IT! That will be wasting Yao's passing talents. I never wanted Rudy to use Yao the same as Hakeem or Shaq. This "watching Yao has he goes one-on-one" is crap! Players should be cutting and moving. Yao will find them. Our offense should mix it up. Dynamic. Not a stagnant "dump it down, kick it out offense." Sure, you can use that. But I don't want to go back to that boring offense. Yao is too good/smart for that type of offense. Nevertheless, I would be very happy with Barry, Miller or Terry. In that order. P.S. If you want a shooter, we need small-foward that will replace Rice. Any ideas?
Mobley,Griffin,Moochie and Maddox for............ Miller,Brand and Piatowski. Youll never know if you dont try! Griffin should only be traded if we are getting a significant player like Odom or Brand.
i say i want a guy who is competent, brings it up the floor and can hit a 3, basically he can hit a 3 and then walk and chew gum at the same time and you say that's why i'm not crazy about us signing posey. if he gets signed, we're committing to him at SF (or at least committing considerable PT) and then how do we bring in a shooter at sf. or if we do bring in a shooter we're doing the same "do we want D or someone who can actually shoot" routine we did with posey/rice this year. ideally nachbar gets his ass unglued from the bench and is the shooter we want but since we even hear he's not a peja like shooter his slashing ability better be real good. man, rashard would be so sweet on this team. height, athleticism, sweet stroke. but that ain't happening now. ok, enough rambling, not sure what to do about sf since i'm not sure what we're doing with posey/nachbar. man that's gotta be one of my longest posts ever.
