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Steve's Immaturity on display on ESPN

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets-R-Us, Feb 17, 2003.

  1. RIET

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    I just don't understand this quote and DOD's signature.

    Name me the 2 Rocket players that have most exceeded your expectations this season:

    Hmmmm..... Yao Ming and Kelvin Cato?

    Which 2 Rockets have received the least criticism this season?

    Hmmmm......


    Yeah, it's sure biased, totally unfair, and have no correlation

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  2. Easy

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    Steve is either referring to Rice or his English grammar is worse than mine--using a present tense for a past action. I strongly believe it's the latter. :p
     
  3. LiTtLeY1521

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    :)

    Well it doesn't matter. He makes 13 MILLION DOLLARS a year. Name one player who speaks English perfectly. Kobe?
     
  4. UTweezer

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    perhaps mobley his estranged ex-lover
     
  5. heypartner

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    ya know, UTweezer. People have been banned for continuing the Mobley/Francis are gay lovers joke.

    It simply is not funny.

    oh, and RIET,

    Yao has not exceeded my expectations. He continues to be below them, but I cut him slack for being tired. And Francis has exceeded my expectations, his midrange game is from the gods. I mean, what the hell did you expect?

    RIET, you appear incapable of comparing Yao to greatness, and thus incapable of seeing Yao's weaknesses.

    Oh, and btw, email me for a ticket. Let's watch a game together this time.
     
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  6. Achebe

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    Fib much? Or are your expectations a tad bit unreasonable?

    Personally, I've seen moments by Mo that were impressive, Cato has been great, and Francis is at times unbelievable...

    but no reasonable person could assert that babyface Yao isn't living up to their expectations (at this point in his career... w/ this little time in the league). Give this guy a season and a half and, *ohhhh miiiiii gahhhhhwd*.

    Otherwise great post. After watching those 8 assist game nights, and then seeing Cuttino rub his scrotum against Steve's cervical vertebrae... sometimes I get annoyed and make those lame jokes too... and it's totally inappropriate.

    There are more apt ways to label Cuttino a selfish moron. Cuttino is an idiot... but it has nothing to do with an obsessiveness with Steve. Don't you agree? His delusions of grandeur encompass all of his relationships, don't you agree?
     
  7. New Jack

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    heypartner, why is it you seem to have so much patience with Steve and Cuttino, the two senior players on the team, while having so little patience with Yao and Griffin, the two babies of the team?
     
  8. Visagial

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    Steve is still being a total idiot. It's not just Legler and Robertson saying Yao should get the ball more. It's the rest of the league and just about every sportswriter. I can't think of one thing I've read, and I read multiple sports pages every day, that said Yao is getting the ball too much, or that the Rockets do a good job of getting him the ball.

    In some papers, it's even a running joke how shot happy Steve and Cuttino are. That comment is totally selective hearing on Francis's part.
     
  9. UTweezer

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    yeah it was inappropriate. sorry
     
  10. leebigez

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    I think its some truth to what Francis said, but I think they give up trying to enter the ball to quickly. Like I've said many times, Steve should never have to get himself into the game. His job is to involve people and get everyone else going. His shots will come like always, but just because a guy misses 1 shot, doesn't mean he shouldn't get the ball anymore. I still think Francis is a little immature when dealing with running an offense. Young or not, this team is entirely to talented to be in the rut they're in. I mean looking at the west, they're as talented as SA and Minny, yet they continue to play at a lower level more consistently.
     
  11. RIET

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    I would disagree. My expectations for Yao this season was something similiar to Nowitzki's first year, maybe slightly more.

    Yao's numbers are decent. However, it's his intangibles that have totally blown me away.

    I never thought he could handle the media scrutiny as well as he has. I never thought he would play so well in the pressure games. I never thought he would pickup the language, culture, and traveling.

    Yao definitely has his weaknesses but most of those will be resolved with experience.

    The inability to create spacing when shooting, inability to grab the tough rebounds, inability to dominate games on a consistent level against weaker competition, inability to demand the ball.

    He has inherent abilities that are difficult to teach - willingness to pass, the touch and coordination to make difficult passes setting up other players for easy baskets, composure, willingness to be taught.

    If you believe that he has rarely attempted hook shots or never had to fight for position inside - the fact he's doing such things regularly is very promising. Those are all things that he has been able to pickup within 1/2 a season.

    I really believe the Rockets have not utilized some of Yao's biggest strengths which include the faceup 15 foot jump shot.
    He has a very sweet touch that we rarely see.

    Given the pluses and minuses, his skills are numerous and potential unlimited. His first season is to learn and has yet to really cost the Rockets a game and make some stupendous rookie errors.

    Taking all that into consideration, there is very little to criticize.

    If Yao demonstrates as little improvement as Eddie Griffin in his second year - then all of us will realize the difference between a potentially good player versus a potentially great one.
     
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    <blockquote><hr>
    Fib much? Or are your expectations a tad bit unreasonable? <hr></blockquote.

    Achebe and New Jack,

    Fib much? Yeah, Achebe, I'm here to lie, as if I'm caught in a neverending Hangout web of political bantar. I'm not interested in talking basketball. I'm more interested in propping up my candidates and my own platform.

    As for unreasonable, first off, I do not have patience with Francis. I don't know where people continue getting the idea that I think Francis was (or even is) as good as Marbury. He has exceeded my expectations, only because I had low ones for him, I knew he was inconsistent, but didn't think he could shoot 49% in wins, and the 3ptrs are blowing me away. To this day, I'd still trade him for (I'm not mentioning his name) for the very reason that Yao Ming is what it is all about.

    Now, I totally had higher expectations for Yao Ming in that he wouldn't be this tired and he would have a better understanding of positioning and better rebounding and blocking. I don't care what the media says in their attempts to back track from their stupid claims. Yao is great, and it was obvious before first game he played. However, I expect it, and he is not delivering every game. I give him slack for being tired. But next year, he gets no slack. Great centers arrive quickly. They do not take time to hit 20/10, and blaming things on Cuttino and Rudy is just a very lame excuse.

    Yao has the power, and he must demand it and deliver next year. He has not hit my expectations...sorry.
     
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  13. LiTtLeY1521

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    Tim Duncan and Tony Parker probably speak the best English.


    Nobody in the NBA is gay.
     
  14. snowmt

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    Marbury is a better PG than Francis. He averages 2 more
    assists than Francis and does a better job to involve
    teammates.
     
  15. tariq

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    Tim Hardaway:D
     
  16. UTweezer

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    dude...i feel bad. I chose Marbury over Francis in my Fantasy league. Traitor..huh
     
  17. carayip

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    Francis right now = Marbury at T-Wolves and NJ

    :(
     
  18. Fegwu

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    Sad indeed but not very far from the truth. Unfortunately Oski2005 does NOT "get it". :D
     
  19. Rockets-R-Us

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    Saying nobody in the NBA is gay is like saying there are no independent voters in the Senate. The only difference is that politicians are allowed to declare their "orientations"!!

    It's been proven that EVERY organization has the same per centage of gays as the general populace: approx 10-12%
     
  20. DavidS

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    Sigh... :rolleyes:
     
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