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Steven Silas Lineups

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Bo6, Oct 27, 2021.

  1. SamFisher

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    Nwaba has been a defensive specialist his entire career - it's practically the only thing he does well and the only reason why he's in the league still. Makes the right rotations etc. But sometimes you guard LeBron James on a corner 3 and he drills it in your face.

    As far as i can tell the Nwaba-Augustin- Brooks lineup was on the court for about 3 minutes in the first/second (went from 32-32 to a 43-42 lead)... this is what you noticed as a huge line up blunder?
     
  2. Joe Rocket

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    If the young guys are good enough to win they should play. We might not geet another star form that draft but it looks like we already have two future stars now.
     
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  3. D-rock

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    Cannot emphasize THIS enough.

     
  4. Russjr2

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    Not going to figure out optimal lineups in the first 7 games of the season ESPECIALLY with a young inexperienced team like ours. Give it time and things will shake out.
     
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  5. Losmi_34

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    I understand them trying to play Theis and the rest of the vets more. They want to up their trade value so that they can get a good return for them. I would support the coaching staff fully if those vets actually produced. And no, it's not about the stats. It's about their play, which isn't good right now.

    To be clear, I'm not expecting this team to play like a well oiled machine, and get wins. That is not reasonable right now. But I expect them to play like last night, to fight and be entertaining, and I expect the vets to at least not be lost on offense and defense.
     
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  6. Bo6

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    the lineup that played from the 4 min mark of the 3rd till the 9 min of the 4th was just atrocious.
     
  7. steddinotayto

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    I didn't watch the game but judging by the play by play info, was it:

    Augustin
    Gordon
    Martin
    Nwaba
    Sengun

    ? If so....I guess Silas likes his substitutions to come in bunches?
     
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  8. D-rock

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    Yep, doesnt like to stagger his starters for some reason.

    And for GAWD'S sake play our best 3ball shooter when behind or stepping on other teams neck.

     
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  9. ApacheWarrior

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    And like the Hampton 5.....not all efficient lineups stand up to starter minutes
     
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  10. D-rock

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    TRUTH
     
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  11. D-rock

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    Maybe should have played Green when Mikal sat?

    Just a thought.

     
  12. ApacheWarrior

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    But I do like it to finish games in most cases.
     
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  13. ApacheWarrior

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    Here are some "Play Type" numbers found on NBA.com
    (prior to games 11/05/21)
    https://www.nba.com/stats/players/spot-up/

    [Rookies]

    Transition......freq.........ppp........NBA percentile
    Suggs............15.2%.......1.04.................44.9.......
    Mobley
    .............12.6%.......1.38.................84.0.......
    Jalen Green..22.2%.......0.94.................31.3.......
    S Barnes........25.4%......1.09..................52.3......

    Isolations......freq........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Suggs.............7.3%.......0.58..................8.9.........

    PnR (Ball Handler)....freq.......ppp........NBA percentile
    Suggs.........................33.5%.....0.51.................8.7......
    Cunningham..............26.9%.....0.43.................6.3......
    Jalen Green................32.6%.....0.53................11.1....

    PnR (Roll Man)...........freq.......ppp.........NBA percentile
    Mobley.......................17.3%.....0.68..................5.2.....
    Sengun.......................18.0%.....1.00................30.9.....

    Post Ups................freq.......ppp..........NBA percentile
    Sengun..................18.0%......0.81....................44.7.....

    Cuts........................freq......ppp...........NBA percentile
    Mobley...................23.6%...1.40......................61.4....
    Sengun....................12.4%...0.82.......................3.6.....

    Off Screens............freq......ppp............NBA percentile
    Jalen Green............6.9%.....0.70......................12.1....

    Hand Offs................freq.....ppp............NBA percentile
    Suggs.......................6.7%....0.73........................24.0....
    Jalen Green..............9.7%...1.43........................98.0....

    Spot Up....................freq.......ppp............NBA percentile
    Sengun....................16.9%.....0.73.......................18.3...
    Cunningham...........34.6%.....0.39.........................2.5...
    S Barnes..................19.8%.....0.52.........................5.8...
    Mobley.....................17.3%.....0.55........................7.1...
    Suggs......................26.2%......0.70........................16.3...
    Jalen Green............18.8%......0.96.........................50.6...

    *minimum of 10 possessions. Cunningham only stats off 3 games.

     
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  14. D-rock

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    Good stuff!

    Now we know why Green gets so many hand offs, he is the best of the rooks at it.

    And Sengun being the best roller is a bit surprising considering all the complaints about his finishing.

    But was most surprised that Mobley has been a monster in transition and as a cutter.

    And Cade is clearly the best spot up shooter.

    All of them sucked as ball handler in PnR and in ISO.
     
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  15. ApacheWarrior

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    Thank you D.

    Yes I was surprised not to see Mobley and Barnes used more in those facilitator"Play Types;"
    but they are getting it done elsewhere as cutters, transition and/or spot up.

    Surprises me that Suggs has been the only Isolation guy and Sengun the only Post Up guy.
    I figured Scottie Barnes and Mobley would get more touches in Post Up.

    Edited: Cunningham the "Best" Spot Up shooter?...... are you mocking him? sarcasm?
    Did you mean, Green? I noted frequency....that's not FG%...LoL.
     
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  16. ApacheWarrior

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    Now let's show Rockets; as it may pertain to Lineups and fit

    Rockets

    Transition
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile

    Tate..............................17.2%.........1.25....................71.5.....
    E Gordon......................12.5%.........1.18....................60.9.....
    Wood............................13.3%.........0.71....................57.7....
    Jalen Green..................22.2%.........0.94....................31.3....
    Porter jr.........................27.1%.........0.87....................22.7....

    Isolation
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Wood............................12.0%.........1.42.....................100....
    Porter jr.........................9.7%...........0.71.....................23.2...

    PnR (Ball Handler)
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    E. Gordon.....................35.2%.........1.19.......................93.7....
    Porter jr........................38.2%..........0.66......................22.2....
    Jalen Green..................32.6%...........0.53......................11.1....

    PnR (Roll Man)
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Theis............................33.3%.........1.20.....................56.9.....
    Wood............................12.7%.........1.00.....................30.9....
    Sengun.........................18.0%.........1.00.....................30.9....

    Post Up
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Sengun.........................18.0%.........0.81......................44.7....
    Wood............................10.8%.........0.59......................13.2....

    Cuts
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Wood............................10.8%.........1.29.......................50.9....
    Tate..............................17.2%..........1.00.......................18.5....
    Sengun.........................12.4%..........0.82........................3.6....

    Off Screens
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Eric Gordon.................12.5%..........0.73.......................15.6....
    Jalen Green..................6.9%...........0.76.......................12.1....

    Hand Off's
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Jalen Green..................9.7%...........1.43.......................98.0....

    Spot Ups
    Player.........................freq...........ppp.........NBA percentile
    Porter jr.........................8.3%...........1.33........................91.1....
    Wood............................19.0%..........1.33........................91.1....
    Eric Gordon..................26.1%..........1.22........................79.2....
    Jalen Green..................18.8%..........0.96........................50.6....
    Kenyon..........................40.6%..........0.92........................43.5....
    Tate...............................24.7%..........0.91........................42.0....
    Sengun..........................16.9%..........0.73........................18.3....


     
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  17. hakeem94

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    and dont even get me started on mathew garrison
    he should be starting on this team and silas made us forget this guy even exists
     
  18. ApacheWarrior

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    Those are the types of screens I want. Get caught every once in a while
    extending those elbows. Every other teams gets away with it.... constantly.
     
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  19. D-rock

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    Not sure about starting, but his and Snipa's 3ball should be part of the rotation.

    A 5 out offense without any deadeyes from 3 makes little sense.
     
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  20. D-rock

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    Good catch, meant Green was best spot up shooter.
     
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