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Steve Nash & Aaron Brooks not MVPS but Next tier... [NBA]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LosPollosHermanos, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Houston only fan
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    Had AB on the front cover of NBA.com so Wondered what it was....


    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/03/26/racetomvp_week21/?ls=iref:nbahpt1



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    LeBron leads first 10; Nash takes top spot of next MVPs

    By Steve Aschburner, NBA.com
    Posted Mar 26 2010 12:03PM

    Week after week, The Race updates loyal readers on the highs, lows, comings and goings of the same 12 or 13 guys as they move up, down, onto or off of this list of MVP candidates. To the point that, if you didn't know better, you wouldn't realize that the NBA actually is the home of more than 400 world-class athletes, each of whom has been wildly successful in his own right. Yet here the committee is, obsessing and enumerating 10, and 10 only, for the most special consideration.

    Well, it's time to broaden our horizons. This league is about more than just 10 guys.

    We're going to look at 10 others. (Sorry, the rest of you 390 or so.)

    What The Race wants to do this week is to identify its candidates for the mythical award of Pretty Valuable Player, or PVP for short. If you don't care for that designation, they could be known as Next-Most Valuable Players, which would make them NMVPs. Or the committee could call them simply The Second 10.

    It's inevitable that, as the season progresses, the evidence mounts and the arguments harden, cracking the top 10 of MVP candidates becomes increasingly difficult. Some guys can be right there, noses pressed to the glass, without gaining or sustaining enough traction. Other guys can be a clear half-step down, which still leaves them a whole flight of stairs above the league's worker bees. The Race decided to honor, in this smallest of ways, the next 10 players who, with a little luck or someone else's debilitating injury, could have their faces and individual glories hailed below on a weekly basis.

    This will have to do:

    • Steve Nash: It's a thin line between Nos. 10 and 11, and Nash has zigged and zagged across it numerous times this season. Given his two MVP trophies already, it's unlikely the Phoenix playmaker will pinch himself over this cockamamie NMVP status.

    • Tim Duncan: Slipping into The Second 10 is nothing Duncan would brag about, if he ever bragged at all. One's first thought is, this slippage is in sync with his career arc, but then you remember that the Spurs' power forward still ranks among the league's top dozen players, as judged by the committee for this season. And other past MVPs like Shaquille O'Neal, Allen Iverson and Kevin Garnett aren't here at all.

    • Brandon Roy: There is an ensemble feel to what the Trail Blazers do on their best nights, but there is no denying the impact Roy has had generally and throughout this season.

    • Josh Smith: No, it wasn't just his tip-slam to beat Orlando that puts the Atlanta forward here. It is his all-around game and his growing maturity, in terms of doing what the Hawks need rather than showing what he himself can do at any given moment.

    • Carlos Boozer: The Race considers him the "other" Chauncy Billups, but in mirror image to the way Denver has it. In Salt Lake City, the point guard is the more valuable of the MVP and NMVP candidates, but the forward isn't far behind. Just so happens this forward was the West's player of the month in February, too.

    • Rajon Rondo: If the committee is going to go 20 deep, it seems appropriate that every likely playoff team should be covered with an MVP or NMVP candidate. In Boston, you'd be splitting hairs in ranking Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen, especially given Rondo's impact and performance since October.

    • Andrew Bogut: Milwaukee needs some love, too, and for all of Brandon Jennings' difference-making, the Bucks wouldn't be considered a dangerous first-round opponent for an upper seed if not for Bogut, playing as healthy and as consistently as he ever has.

    • Gerald Wallace: Charlotte's headed for the postseason, too, and Wallace -- banged-up as he's been -- gets the biggest piece of credit pie.

    • Aaron Brooks: OK, so Houston is on the outs right now in the West. But where exactly would the Rockets be without the vast improvement their slight point guard has shown this season (after serious glimmer in 2008-09)?

    • Derrick Rose: Rose is here representing the best of the worst. He edges New York forward David Lee as the most valuable guy on a sub-.500 team. You hardly ever see such players in The Race and, frankly, they rarely are permitted to crack it. But there is no denying the Chicago point guard's value as a D-Wade Lite this season.

    And now, The Race resumes its regularly scheduled programming:
     
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  2. brian_chapman

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    If you're drafting a team using this roster, who do you pick ahead of Brooks ?
     
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    Not too shabby for a very late 1st rounder
     
  4. rockets934life

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    Do you mean the Rocket's roster or the list of players on the list? If it's the list I choose Roy and Rondo over AB.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Funny how the national media knows more than some fans around this bbs.

    DD
     
  6. SuperBeeKay

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    How much do flip flops cost?
     
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  7. daeyeth

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    Not really

    Fan = guy with a hobby and often biased perspective
    Media = paid to research basketball to backup his reports
     
  8. duluth111222

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    Eh, which media? I would like to pay for it if there is one... :grin:
     
  9. elindio23

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    not BSPN
     
  10. Jontro

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    I heard realgm is legit.
     
  11. rocketblaze

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    I'm assuming you mean from that list of players....and I would take
    Rose
    Roy
    Rondo
    Nash
    Smith

    over Brooks... :p

    --RB
     
  12. choujie

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    Fans = people who follows their teams and actually watched every game or most games of his team.
    Meida = paid to read stats, watch a few national televised games and make up stories

    In most cases, media and analysts have no clue about a general NBA team unless it's the team they follow or it's the team on national TV all the time.

    In this case, even though I agree AB is the MVP on Rockets, he is overrated by his scoring ability. Reality is Rockets had a very poor record without Lowry. The team overachieved, but guys like Lowry, Landry, Martin, Scola etc are just as important as AB, lose any one of those for a long period of time the team wouldn't have similar record.
     
  13. choujie

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    For this year only, everybody on the list over AB.
     
  14. abc2007

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    AB has improved a lot. But, I don't think a player can be called MVP candidate or next tier if he is unable to lead the team into the playoffs.
     
  15. jfbradley1985

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    With that said, niether can steve nash. He couldn't do it alone, and niether could brandon roy. If nash didn't have that one guy, what's his name, staudomire like last year, no playoffs... Aldrige? Broy couldn't do it alone, barely making the playoffs last year getting smashed in the first round. the great role players both teams have kinda do something to help their chances.

    AB on the other hand has......... well I think you all get the point. AB nor can anyone, unless they are called michael jordan or Lebron James and kobe could individually lead anyone to the playoffs without major help, especially in the west...

    You my friend are a dillusional fail.

    AB is very good, near MVP. When martin came in, taking some pressure off, AB is having some of his best games (with the exception of a few.) HE is almost there, just needs some Yao, and healthy role players.
     
  16. ryano2009

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    I just don't get how D-Wade and Chris Bosh on the MVP consideration, I know they are great players, but their team is barely making the playoff, and probably they won't make they won't make the playoff, I just don't get it.
     
  17. abc2007

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    Do you often watch basketball? If so, you should have known that nash still led the suns went into WC finals without Stoudemire.

     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    Do you watch basketball? Regardless that SUNS team was good. If I remember I believe they had Joe Johnson and namely a few other good players.

    Actually, they played better without him from what I recall.

    Don't understand why this thread is 1 star, its a freaking article from NBA.com, some YOFs on here are too blind to think anything else. If it said Kyle lowry instead it would probably be much higher.
     
  19. abc2007

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    Of course, I watch bball. Joe Johnson was injured in wc semi finals.

    btw, we have a few other good players as well. In fact, if you think AB a MVP candidate, you also can say Scola, Martin, Ariza are MVP candidates as well.
    Actually, I will take Scola over AB and other rockets players.

     
  20. T.Mcgrady

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    Don't put Steve Nash and Aaron Brooks in the same sentence.


    Nash is a much, much, much, much better player.
     

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