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Steve McNair Found Dead in Murder Suicide!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Lazy McGrady, Jul 4, 2009.

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  1. Angkor Wat

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    kind of hard to rest in peace with a murder suicide.
     
  2. Faos

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    Well, at least he was being a good father.
     
  3. krnxsnoopy

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    True....
     
  4. Surfguy

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    Doesn't strike me as very bright of McNair. It's bad enough he was cheating on his wife with one girl...but he actually had two girls on the side. No, this situation would never end badly (heavy on sarcasm). It may be difficult to foresee the tragic outcome that came but this wasn't going to end well for at least two people before it was all said and done. The reality is this probably wasn't going to end well for many people including him, his family, and his women on the side. Did being a celebrity and football player give him the means to think he could pull this off while keeping everyone happy? Pretty arrogant considering he had a bunch of kids. I'm sure he was a good person. He just wanted to be a good person while sleeping around. He was kind of a walking contradiction IMO.
     
  5. Ari

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    Not to sound cold, but I really have nothing against people wanting to end their own lives, heck it may actually be the humane thing to do. The problem I have is that this b**** decided to take the live of another human being just because she was a bitter, hateful and confused little kid. I really have a problem with those who feel it justified to take it out on the rest of humanity before they end their miserable existence. To me, this girl is no different than those Columbine freaks or the VTech gunman.

    Wanna end your life? Do it with some dignity and jump off a cliff or a bridge or OD on some painkillers and leave the rest of us alone.

    Sorry for the little rant, I just think there is a special place in hell for people like this loser Kazemi kid.
     
  6. ubigred

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    I certainly agree with your post. If you have suicidal thoughts keep that to yourself seriously.

    She could of killed herself and called it a day . Im going to stop here before I say some bad stuff.
     
  7. Surfguy

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    Yea...but you're leaving out the part about:

    "If I can't have him, then noone can."

    She knew he was married...and she knew he was seeing someone else. This is just another part of her so-called hopelessness. I think a part of her felt she could do it if she took him with her. Otherwise, she couldn't see herself doing it probably. That's what I think. She was messed cause her prioritizing about life was way off. She could get out of the financial mess by coming forward for help for one. In the end, I think it was more about her realizing she was losing McNair. The financial situation wasn't helping the situation obviously. Noone can accuse her of being rational...and irrational people will do irrational things...because they can't ration rationally. Yea...that's the ticket.
     
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    A good father doesn't cheat on the kids' mother while he's still married to her. :(

    Tough to have to say that, but it's true.
     
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    To be honest , judging by the wife's silence. I dont think they were a happy couple. They probably had an open marriage, staying married in "title" only for the kids.
     
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    Oh, okay. That justifies the example he set for his kids then. :rolleyes:
     
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    Pure speculation on your part.
     
  12. Faos

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    Ari and ubigred, the ones STILL alive on earth have to deal with the cowards who take their own lives. Can't deal with "problems"? What? You made them yourself... now DEAL with them. Don't leave family, friends, an entire organization, work, etc., with the burden of trying to clean up the mess you made. It's cowardly to take your own life, DOUBLE cowardly to take someone else's life with you. How can you possibly assume that killing yourself will fix anything? Sad.
    Rep'd, Mr. Z, sir. :eek:
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm guessing a lot of pro-athletes think that way.
     
  15. Surfguy

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    Well...that has always been the argument about suicide. The people who commit suicide don't feel they can deal with their problems...and want to end their lives. Yes, there are other people to consider if one is going to take their own life. But, to say someone should remain living even though they are obviously at a point they don't want to just because they leave people behind who have to mourn and clean up the mess...that is a lot to ask. Yes, some of these troubled people may not consider paths to where they can fix their issues and remain living. The bottom line is it seems like a lot to ask a person who is intent on ending their life to remain just to spare those around them. How is that supposed to work? They obviously couldn't find the happiness and help up to that point. Some people will stop short of suicide because they don't want their family or parents to bury them. But, some people are also so distraught that none of that can breach their mindset of they don't want to continue. It may be selfish to commit suicide...but isn't it also selfish to ask someone to remain alive if they don't want to be? In that case, someone can still end it by just having a car accident and making it look like an accident...to spare their loved ones the notion that they committed suicide.

    Hey, I don't have all the answers but if someone is intent on committing suicide because they cannot deal with life...asking them to stay around for the sake of everyone else that would be left behind...is a bit of a stretch IMO. Everyone has to live their life for themselves first. If they cannot be happy and don't feel it can be fixed, then what else is there. Oh...continue on so you don't hurt others. Unfortunately, as we have seen, it doesn't work that way a lot of times. Some people just think some things cannot be fixed in their own lives and they don't like themselves enough to go on...and this is the way out. The living cannot expect to understand the thoughts of such an individual who would go to such drastic means and...if they think they do...then they are lying. Every individual is unique with their own problems and their own way of interpreting those problems. It is not black and white. There is plenty of grey area.

    I'm not excusing it...but I just don't think it is as simple as saying someone should go on living to not let down those left behind. If that were the case, then noone would do it. I'm sure these people are irrational at times and others think about this dilemma a lot. The question then becomes should I go on living with everything I interpret to be my problems that I cannot seem to get past and has led me to this end game...just because you will end up hurting those left behind? That question asked to someone who is on the fence...good luck with that.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. What's the point of releasing these text messages to the public besides to feed our need of want-to-know? Does it help us in anyway? Does it help the other victims of this event in anyway? What's the point?
     
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    Cause its the medias job. It is to give the public what they want to know. I wish people would get off their pulpit.
     
  18. Angkor Wat

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    I'm sorry, but there is no way to justify a suicide. EVERYBODY has problems. Rich, poor, and in between. I'm sure its been said before but it is the coward way it. Most people deal with their problems, they don't take the easy way out and off themselves. Just because they aren't happy with their lives, its okay for them to commit suicide? My point being, suicide should never be an option. Its very selfish. And how is asking somebody not to kill themselves, for the sake of others, a selfish act? I believe that is called trying to help.
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    Whether you're walking on the FENCE, BROKEN GLASS or EGG SHELLS or on a soft SILK sheet, the answer is "YES, you should go on living", sir. :eek: Everything can be fixed, anyone CAN get help with their problems or FACE THE MUSIC. And since we're talking about Steve McNair dying because of someone's fright to fix something, it was twice as DUMB.

    Angkor, did you mean to complete your fourth sentence? :confused:
     
  20. ubigred

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    Yes it is. Could be right could be wrong.

    Swoly-D: Suicide is never the answer. However, if you are going to do it, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.
     
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