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Steve Kyler: Howard also considering Brooklyn and San Antonio

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. pwnyxpress

    pwnyxpress Member

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    I assume you meant Brook Lopez...

    In which case, I could see LAL taking back Brook Lopez + filler for D12, though I imagine Lin + TRob + Asik would be more attractive. Lopez can't rebound worth crap!

    The harder part of this equation is not actually what LAL would be willing to take, it is the $16M+ BKN have to clear BEFORE even doing the SnT w/ LAL. Contracts all too undesirable to move that amount to any conscious team that also happens to have the caproom to absorb all of that for free.
     
  2. Corrosion

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    This is a fair point .... I think it'll be very difficult for Howard to find himself in Brooklyn come July 10th.


    I cant blame the guy for shopping around ... before settling on a team & city for the next four years or more.
     
  3. thekad

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    Green is 26 and neither of those two are stars... Spurs have been great because Duncan has been great. He's 37 and Pop is already planning to retire with him.

    Again, you have to be incredibly small-minded to think Dwight would end up in San Antonio of all places.
     
  4. The Cat

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    Kris Humphries averages 5 and 5. What team would possibly be stupid enough to commit $12 million in cap room to this guy before free agency even starts, all for the upside of two late first-round picks (worthless)?

    Answer: none.
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    And yet that same team destroyed the Heat two nights ago.
     
  6. The Cat

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    Uh, that's kind of the point. They're a great team in the here and now. The choice Dwight has to make involves the next four years, at a minimum.
     
  7. Carl Herrera

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    He is an expiring contract, so while bad, he won't be impossible to move with the right incentives. A team like SAC with cap room and no one star who wants to sign with the may do it for some picks. Still, it is always iffy when you have to rely on another team to cooperate.
     
  8. The Cat

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    My point is that they don't have the right incentives, nor do they have the right timing. Late first-round picks, as rocketjunkie suggested, are essentially worthless, and they also don't have young prospects of note.

    In addition, what team is going to ruin their cap space that early in the offseason? Maybe if it's September and there are no other options left on the market. But you'd have to find a team willing to sacrifice at least $12 million in cap room before free agency even starts, all for the upside of two future draft picks between 25 and 29. That seems unlikely, to say the least.
     
  9. pwnyxpress

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    I imagine Humphries would be more desirable maybe at the trade deadline.
     
  10. GageD

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    Hoopsworld. /thread
     
  11. J.R.

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    (Not really following along, but saw the Nets/Humphries mentioned)

    Kris Humphries? The same Kris Humphries they tried to S&T (when he was a FA) last year? Instead signed him to a 2 year $24 million dollar contract? That Kris Humphries?
     
  12. The Cat

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    Right. He's desirable in two scenarios:

    1.) His expiring allows another team to unload a longer-term contract. Not relevant here, since Nets would have to deal him into cap space.

    2.) A team with zero options needs a competent big body to rent over the short-term. That's the kind of move that gets done near the deadline... not around July 1, before free agency even starts. If a team needs a big and has cap room, it makes zero sense to settle on Humphries before letting free agency play itself out.

    By the way, even if there were hypothetically a team willing to blow cap room on July 1 for no apparent reason... another team could easily beat the Brooklyn offer. Dallas would undoubtedly love to shed the expiring contract of Shawn Marion... a better and cheaper forward than Humphries. Any picks from Dallas would likely be better than those from Brooklyn, too. And that's just one hypothetical. The bottom line is that Brooklyn isn't happening for Dwight. Not a chance.
     
  13. pwnyxpress

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    Agreed. And this is before even taking into account the other contracts teams (the same one or others) would have to take on, including Teletovic's and like Reggie Evans'. Even harder to move those as they aren't even expiring, though I can see some team taking Evans' for a 2nd rounder, maaaybe.
     
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    It's possible to work scenarios on paper that work to get Dwight to NJ, but when you try to figure out why the other team would make the deal with them it just falls apart. Those teams would have to be actively wanting to help Dwight get to NJ.
     
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    Carl mentioned SA and I agree. They can sign D12 by not resigning Manu and denouncing or cutting some very minor pieces.

    D12
    TD
    KLeonard
    Tony Parker


    That is probably his best team for the next couple of years.

    I hope he likes the idea of playing with Harden more.
     
  16. Francis3422

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    If SA wins the title (they will IMO) I don't think Howard will sign with them. He will just be taking the Tracy McGrady route to the extreme. That really won't do much for his legend IMO.
     
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    The Tracy route to the extreme, eh? How does not having a role on a championship run = having a huge role in a championship run?
     
  18. xiki

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    Still, it is always iffy when you have no idea what the team's philosophy will be moving forward under new tutelage.
     
  19. pwnyxpress

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    But it is only good for another yr or 2. That seems just as precarious as LAL. I mean, why bother leaving LAL for an expiring team that has just as much unknown, but a less glamorous city? At least with us he gets the youth. Dwight doesn't really like how the Spurs run their team, I imagine, as they are pretty much everything he is not lol. Serious, no divas, Pop is a mean (but GREAT) coach that doesn't take crap, self-sacrificers who don't blame others, system, etc. Ehhh...

    Also, don't be surprised if the Spurs win this yr and TD/Pop both retire :p
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    Because Peter Holt, the owner who won those titles with the team, is still running the Spurs and hasn't died and handed the team over to his idiot son Jimmy Holt.
     

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