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Steve Haters: Shut Up

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheReasonSF3, Oct 30, 2002.

  1. BigM

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    the question remains, what was steve's shooting percentage? pretty damn good. would there be a problem if jordan took 28 shots? how about kobe going 9-29 last night? i guess he sucks as well. MOOCHIE WAS THE POINT GUARD. MOOCHIE WAS THE POINT GUARD. MOOCHIE WAS THE POINT GUARD. steve was called upon to take the shots and they were pretty damn high percentage. he took mid-range jumpers, he went into the lane and hit floaters or got fouled. how was he the problem?
     
  2. The Summit

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    Well Reason, at least I know someone is on my side. They just said on 610, "I dont see how anyone can critisize Steve Francis tonight. He did everything he could, he had no one to pass to". So all the Steve haters, give it up, its just getting pathetic and tiresome at this point.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Steve did pass the ball at the start of the game. Watch it again if you don't remember. Steve shot 48%. That's great for a guard.

    I won't blame Steve because other people on the team didn't show up ready to play. They had open looks at the basket courtesy of Steve. They didn't knock them down. This happened on several occasions. Steve saw the team needed someone to knock down some shots and score, so Steve did it. He stepped up big time.

    It's odd that people blame the one guy who did play tonight instead of the seven that didn't.
     
  4. cujo

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    Francis did good. As a team, the offense was motionless.
     
  5. lovethisgametoo

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    Steve Haters??? where are they? I don't find any.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

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    Moochie was listed as the point guard in tonight's game. However, the offensive went through Steve on *each and every* possession. With this type of control over the offense, Steve *must* shoulder some of the blame for a combined team output of only 82 points. Simply stating that Moochie was the point guard does not address the issue of Steve not sharing the ball -- the ball was in Steve's hands the entire night.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Thank goodness or we may not have scored even 50 points. Blaming the one guy who actually showed with spirit and a desire to win tonight doesn't seem like the best criticism.
     
  8. DavidS

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    It's called ISO, 39 points, and a loss.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Actually it's called only one guy being willing to do what it takes to win a game.

    Look at the moves the other guys on the team were making with the ball. They were lifeless, they weren't trying to get into position for the pass. They didn't open shots when they had the opportunity, and so our leader took the lead. That's exactly what he should have done.

    Maybe now the other guys will come back with fire, and determination.

    I would rather have had the team lose because they were too excited and nervous tonight. Instead it looked like they didn't come to play.
     
  10. Yetti

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    STEVE FRANCIS had a great game tonight! The only thing is that he forgot what position he was playing. If he keeps on having these great games we will be in the lottery at the end of the season.Memphis gets our pick!
     
  11. gotoloveit2

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    Its not all about shooting percentage. Your top scorer could shoot over 50% but still lost the game. BECAUSE the rest of the team was not involved. When you played iso, its hard for the rest of the team to get into the paint to get rebounds or got fouls. Basketball is a team sports, its a combination of different stats, no just shooting percentage on one player out of the whole team. I rather steve shot 35% and 10 ass and LOST the game than a 50% with only 4 ass winning game. BECAUSE you lost on the long run. It s the beginning of the seasons. What s the best time to get your team involved. Now or later. I think the answer is quite obvious.
     
  12. kidrock8

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    As usual, Francis' big individual performance leads to a Rockets loss.

    That is all I will say.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    We did lost the game. If the other players would have scored on the open shots that Steve handed to them it might have been a different story.

    A leader sees what the team needs. Tonight they needed somebody who could put the ball in the basket. Steve started out trying to get others involved and they failed to step up. Steve did what he had to.

    Steve did take a few ill advised quick shots, and made a few mistakes like that. But Steve's quick shots are at the bottom of the list of reasons why we lost the game tonight.
     
  14. DavidS

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    Thank you! Even if we won the game tonight, it still would be a sign
    of bad things to come. Unless Francis changes for the better. He is still
    NOT making his team better.
     
  15. DavidS

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    You're right about that one. Francis ISOs aside, the rest of the team
    looked like they were ready for a nap. At least show some fire!

    They were passive.
     
  16. Jerry36

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    Steve and Mobley were only looking to get theirs. That's the reason why the offense broke down. Why can't they run Rudy's offense effectively. Because they have a shoot first mentality. When will they ever learn.
     
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    EVERYBODY! FRANCIS LED THE DAMN TEAM IN ASSISTS! STOP HATIN!
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    ACtually FIRST Steve was passing and his teammates didnt' step up.

    I could respect the argument that he should have kept passing, even if I disagreed with it under the circumstances of tonights game.

    But Steve did look to pass FIRST tonight. When that didn't work he took matters into his own hands.

    The worst thing about tonights game was that only Steve and possibly Cato really showed to play and played with any fire.

    And it's not because the others got bored when they didn't get the ball. They did get the ball early on, and many plays went through Yao when he was on the floor, but nobody else stepped it up.

    Steve deserves some criticism, but his forced shots are not the reason we lost tonight.
     
  19. DavidS

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    NO! That's the wrong way to look at it. It takes discipline to KEEP passing
    to LEARN how to play like a team. You must sacrafice YOUR game in order
    to learn how to trust and play WITH your team. We already KNOW that
    Francis can take over a game. But, we'll never win a championship
    if we use this tactic.

    Only depend on Francis TAKING OVER THE GAME once in a while.
    But most of the time you should learn to TRUST YOUR TEAMMATES.

    Even if that means that you lose some games to do so.

    Remember, we still lost. And even if we would have won, we would
    have won the WRONG WAY.
     
  20. New Jack

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    I really don't care how many shots his teamates miss, if players are open Steve needs to get them the ball no matter what. This is part of the problem with Steve. His complete lack of faith in his teamates. They miss a few shots and he completely gives up on them the rest of the game and tries doing everything himself. Until Steve learns to trust his teamates and have confidence in them the team will go nowhere.
     

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