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Steve Francis update...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TxTchRT41, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. Rover16

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    No what's funny is that the francis lovers are in such denial and don't want what's best for the team. I just want the rockets to win, but you have these francis lovers looking through their goggles expecting a player who is no longer nba quality and would have trouble cracking a d league roster these days to play at the expense of winning. It's a selfish attitude to have.
     
  2. Laozi

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    So you'll take your ball and go home if Francis makes this team?
     
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  4. Angkor Wat

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    No difference from fans that want a unproven Brooks to man all the back up minutes and some even wanted him to start over Rafer. How is it selfish to hope that one of our players can bounce back and help the team? Nobody is asking for the 20/6/6 Francis. We don't need that Stevie anymore. If healthy, Francis can contribute. We saw glimpses of what he could do last season that was when he was out of shape and injured.

    He adds another dimension to this team. Another player that can create shots for himself and others. Not to mention his ability to penetrate the defense. If he wasn't NBA quality, Miami and LAC wouldn't have thrown him MLE money before last season. And of course, Money Ball Morey wouldn't have signed him if he felt Francis was useless.
     
  5. Rover16

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    No why would I do that? I have absolute confidence that the rockets goal is winning and that means francis will have no more than a minor part on this team. You have to realize that francis had a player option for this year that he exercised, otherwise he wouldn't even be on the team right now.
     
  6. Rover16

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    I said it last summer, that so far that signing has been the only blemish on morey so far, but at least it didn't cost much. Don't kid yourself thinking it was a moneyball signing, cause I'd like to see what moneyball equation said signing francis was a good move. It was nothing more than a move to bring back a fan favorite.
     
  7. QdoubleA

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    Just how much haterade can you possibly drink? I can't wait to rub some Stevie Franchise highlights in your face around january.
     
  8. Rover16

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    I'll give you a head start. ;)

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  9. TMac'n

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    Lol, that's pretty funny. but, seriously I wouldn't mind him making a comeback. He used to be one of my favs
     
  10. tcadriel

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    Rover16 said:
    Morey actually said Francis was "undervalued" and a low risk with a high upside, and thats exactly what we're saying. That's he only adds to this team and healthy motivated Francis at 80% is better than a sophomore, basically a rookie, that has yet to develop into a guard that will help carry this team far into the playoffs.

    Some here would rather gamble on a unknown, while some would rather have a former all-star and a former face of the Houston Rocket franchise. We know what a healthy Steve brings to the table, but what does Brooks do when the pressure gets tough? Stevie is the better back up for a championship team, period.

    What you're running your mouth about is that Francis is a no basketball I.Q. player, thats over the hill, fat and injured. Your basically said that we should just throw Francis away because "you know" he's washed up.

    Your not a gambling man are you? ;)
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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  12. Rover16

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    This is the fallacy that you guys always fall back to. His health has nothing to do with it. Francis is just over the hill and a washed up scrub now, healthy or not.
     
  13. Rover16

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    Him and bonzi wells got us bobby jackson and in turn got us Rocket Ron! :cool:
     
  14. Angkor Wat

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    HA HA HA. You must know all of Morey's moves and the reasoning behind them. What is he going to do next? Better yet, what is his 5 year plan?
     
  15. Verbatim

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    Adding Francis was a great move for the money and even if he didn't work out last season, who's to say it won't work this season? He's still undervalue. He got the problem/injury fixed and he's looking to ball. I'm sure he knows this is the best team he's ever played on and he doesn't have to dominate. Did you see him in the allstar game? He is a point guard and can dish. He is a strong player who rebounds well for his position. He's fearless and will mix it up with the trees in the paint. Sure, that was a while ago but the man is what 31? I submit he's not over the hill yet.

    A heathly Steve leading the 2nd unit with Barry, (Battier or Artest), Laundry and (who ever is playing center) will give fits to any other 2nd unit in the league. That's all we want from the man. Or is that even too much to ask and all the "realist" out there figure Steve can't provide now?
     
  16. i3artow i3aller

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    Some of these comments are pretty disturbing considering how hard Francis played for Houston. Clutchfans is a really great site and I'd always be checking here before I finally joined, but it's hard not to notice how overly critical most are of Rocket players. Francis is done. T-mac may as well be 38. Yao is soft. Landry will never be the same. You can't like Brent Barry. Scola can't finish. Enough! Why not embrace your players instead of chastising them. Sounds crazy right? None of you know how Steve will be next year. In fact, Steve probably isn't positive of that himself. There is no telling if his surgery was successful, how much he'll be able to recapture of his former self, or if he can adjust to Adelman's system. That is not a good enough reason to write someone off though. From the pics I have seen posted Steve is in great shape and appears to be giving it his all while on the comeback trail and I for one applaud that. We should all wish to ourselves and openly for Steves return as the franchise. He could be just the x-factor this team needs in order to reach for the stars and claim that championship. Maybe most of you are bored or choose to bash your own since they have yet to bring you your precious championship and gave you all false hopes of a Dynasty. Truth is, if and when this team does win it all, those who stuck by the team and its players will appreciate the accomplishment that much more.
     
  17. topfive

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    Sorry, Rover16, but this is the dumbest thing I've seen yet on this entire thread. You really think Morey would forego getting a better player for that money? Or that Les would give up a few million a year just for sentimental reasons?!? This isn't Dream we're talking about. If these guys didn't believe Francis was capable of making the rotation, they flat out wouldn't have signed him.

    Some of you guys will say just about ANYthing to try to make your point, but you go so far overboard you end up just looking silly.
     
  18. Carl Herrera

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    Well, Morey recovered nicely from his mistake. It went from the shorter contract of Juwan to the longer contract of Mike, then Morey had to throw in Bonzi to get rid of the one extra year of Mike's contract and get Bobby Jackson (whose deal was the same length as Juwan's), who then became part of the Ron deal.

    I don't think Mike James presented positive value to Hornets in that trade... they took him so they could have Bonzi to help fill their wing (and be a possible Spurs killer, I think). In any case, I do give Morey credit for not givng away anything all that valuable (like a draft pick) in order to dump salary.
     
  19. Rover16

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    Some people just can't handle the truth. Let me ask you. If francis never played for the rockets, do you think Morey makes that move?
     
  20. i3artow i3aller

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    I recall a lot of teams pursuing Francis. I recall T-Mac crying on a podium, because NO other rocket player could create their own shot or get to the rim. How can you not make a move that strengthens an area of weakness.
     

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