Steve Francis Subjected to Maoist Struggle Session

Tell that to Hu Jintao and CCP members, lol.

Btw, you need some anger management. This is just BBS. Take it easy. Also, don't pretend you know anything about communism and capitalism, because you don't.

 

lol wow...one ignorant post really fired some people on here up.

to all the communist china = bad people, what kind of response from the nba would you expect stevie to get if he the same thing in america? its just a warning...not nearly as severe as a fine/suspension. SO PLEASE DON'T TRY TO OFFEND OTHERS BY SAYING THIS WOULD ONLY HAPPEN IN CHINA.

IMO, china is undoubtedly a communist country. but i dont see anything wrong with it. as long as the majority of its citizens are benefiting (i.e improved living standards, health care....), they why hate on communism. its nothing more than a political party. no point in saying its evil. its probably just something you can't/refuse to understand/support.

p.s before anyone starts comparing living standards/income...between china and america, why i meant my improved is comparing with today's china and china 10/20 years ago.

 

There's so much misunderstanding of regime types here, that I'm compelled to clear this up for you guys. Technically, clos4life is correct: China is a "communist controlled country" in the sense that the Chinese Communist Party controls the country. And spookyoldtree is also correct, technically, that China is not a communist country in the pure sense. China is probably more accurately described as a authoritarian country with mixed socialist/capitalist economy.

A communist country means that the economy is totally socialized *and* the polity is controlled by one party. This is why there are also socialist democracies such as the Scandinavian countries and authoritarian capitalist countries (one could make the case that China is one). Beyond these "ideal types" of regimes, most regimes have some mixture of socialism and capitalism (including the US). The mixture leans more toward capitalism in the US than in say China or Norway.

 

so do people in communists countries not recognize bad basketball?

 

Finally, an intelligent response.

Defining communism has little to do with defining China. China is still technically communist based on corrupt totalitarian party rule, but the economy is most definitely capitalistic/socialistic in nature.

True communism has never existed on this planet because it is impossible. Simply put, its inherent flaw is human nature and thus the system lends itself to inherent corruption.

 

Can we all agree that Stevie is a douch in the US and in China?

 

aren't we communists by spreading around bad basketball players across the world?

 

Here's a useful little thing called The Constitution of the People's Republic of China.

[from the Preamble]
Under the leadership of the Communist Party of China and the guidance of Marxism- Leninism and Mao ZedongThought, the Chinese people of all nationalities will continue to adhere to the people's democratic dictatorship and follow the socialist road, steadily improve socialist institutions, develop socialist democracy, improve the socialist legal system and work hard and self-reliantly to modernize industry, agriculture, national defence and science and technology step by step to turn China into a socialist country with a high level of culture and democracy. The exploiting classes as such have been eliminated in our country. However, class struggle will continue to exist within certain limits for a long time to come. The Chinese people must fight against those forces and elements, both at home and abroad, that are hostile to China's socialist system and try to undermine it.

Article 1. The People's Republic of China is a socialist state under the people's democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on the alliance of workers and peasants. The socialist system is the basic system of the People's Republic of China. Sabotage of the socialist system by any organization or individual is prohibited.

Article 6. The basis of the socialist economic system of the People's Republic of China is socialist public ownership of the means of production, namely, ownership by the whole people and collective ownership by the working people. . . .

Article 7. The state economy is the sector of socialist economy under ownership by the whole people; it is the leading force in the national economy. The state ensures the consolidation and growth of the state economy.

Enjoy: http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/constitution/constitution.html

 

He would have gotten in trouble in the NBA for that as well. Maybe even a suspension.

 

Fact: US charges much higher income tax than China does.
US gives much more tax cuts and benefits to low income families, senior/children than China does.
China doesn't have national health insurance, US is about to have it.

Conclusion: US is more of a communism country than China.

 

Then go back and live in china . ungratefull.....

 

Go back and to china and live over there if you cant stand america.

 

Yes, it is... I go to university with a hell of alot of Chinese, and it is still communist, not like it used to be, but it still is. Government regulation is everywhere, just take the internet, they are not allowed youtube, bbc news amongst others, as they may preach other political ideologies.

 

Great point my friend, human nature encourages competition between people, and people naturally want to be better than others. This is not a bad thing, its just the way we are.
Also, communism cannot properly exist because every1 cannot be equal, some body has to be in charge, and this usually leads to leaders becoming too empowered, and the people suffer as a result. E.g. Stalin...

 

Im sorry, but the conclusion you have arrived at it is bull my friend. America embraced the free market with neoliberal policies, deregulation, privatisation etc, all signs of capitalism. Fair enough, Obama may be more sympathetic to a socialist order than Bush was, but that does not make America communist.
In America, private ownership of capital can exist on a larger basis than in China.

 

This thread sure got stupid fast.

Maybe you should learn to speak American first, you fob

 

Ignore the mainland jingoist Maoists, they're just pretending to be Americans in the 1950's, or British in the 1890's.

To people on the other side of this fence, don't worry. We were there. We got over it. We don't love the USA anymore, we are cynical like Europeans now. The constitution's failing us and blah blah blah your system is perfect etc etc. Give it some time and your country will start to suck just as much as ours does. Just hope that your country has you killed before that moment arrives and all your precious dreams fall to pieces like Stevie Franchise's boxing management prospects.

 

uh-

China's a wreck politically in terms of human rights. nominally communist-but actually probably more free market and capitalist then America these days.

but if i permit myself a rimshot

it's more likely Stevie Franchise would end up in jail in America then in China.

 

Steve Francis Middle Finger Video: China Upset at Flipping Bird

Searched 2+ pages and didn't find the thread for this, but I may overlooked.

Anyway it is what it is. I find it funny :grin:

http://www.nowpublic.com/sports/ste...-video-china-upset-flipping-bird-2740855.html

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=197939
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