No need for the thorough analytical breakdown. I simply missed the "perimeter player" comment and thought he was including everybody. My bad.
I guess I'm not. hooroo posted in one of the V-Span threads in the GARM Spanoulis' game by game numbers. He had one game with 12 FT attempts.
hm....as there were rumors about jermaine possibly moving to NY, and the knicks having to unload a big contract(possibly francis's), and the pacers having no interest in the neither marbury nor francis, could we have taken francis for them and shipping out jho and rafer in return? Indiana Pacers Incoming Players Photo: Kirk Snyder Kirk Snyder Salary: $1,537,440 Years Remaining: 2 PTS: 4.9 REB: 2.1 AST: 1.0 PER: 12.16 Photo: Juwan Howard Juwan Howard Salary: $6,392,100 Years Remaining: 3 PTS: 9.7 REB: 5.9 AST: 1.6 PER: 12.79 Photo: Rafer Alston Rafer Alston Salary: $4,200,000 Years Remaining: 4 PTS: 13.3 REB: 3.4 AST: 5.4 PER: 12.99 Photo: David Lee David Lee Salary: $926,040 Years Remaining: 2 PTS: 10.7 REB: 10.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 20.31 Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal New York Knicks Incoming Players Photo: Jermaine O'Neal Jermaine O'Neal Salary: $18,084,000 Years Remaining: 3 PTS: 19.4 REB: 9.6 AST: 2.4 PER: 18.86 Outgoing Players: David Lee, Steve Francis Houston Rockets Incoming Players Photo: Steve Francis Steve Francis Salary: $15,070,000 Years Remaining: 3 PTS: 11.3 REB: 3.6 AST: 3.9 PER: 15.19 Assumption of cuz, after this, pacers should get 1-2 first round pick or maybe some other of knick's good player and also accept some of pacer's unwanted players, and we would prolly have to get a 1st rounder as well for taking on marbury's contract. so there will probably be picks, other players, and cash involved. why it benefit us? well, of cuz we can unload a cancer such as jho and rafer, and get a better point in return. it actually benefit us since both francis and jho has 2 years remaining, while rafer has like 3 more years. It doesn't hurt our cap that badly as people would expect. it's true that we have to sacrifice kirk for cap purpose, but we'll also get a restricted first rounder in return. and maybe a young player also. why it benefit knicks? dun wanna state the obvious why it benefit pacers? jho is the cossumate professional that they want on their team to get the image back up. rafer can replace the old darell armstrong. Lee is a young stud. they'll take 1-2 first round picks from knicks. they may possibly get another stud like nate robinson. they'll get cash as well.
So Jho is a cancer and a consummate professional? While the talent level for Jho and Rafer isn't up to what we need, THEY ARE FAR FROM CANCERS. They gave us 100% all the time. JHo didn't complain when he got benched. He worked harder to get playing time when the opportunity came. Rafer was our iron man with minutes played, and while his shooting percentage wasn't great, he did a lot of other things to the best of his ability to help the team out. Calling them cancers is RIDICULOUS. P.S. No way we get Francis in a trade. He only comes here if he gets bought out and signs here for pocket change.
Getting francis would be awesome. I think Francis could play the one or two - since T-mac would take care of some of the playmaking ability - but francis would be free to be francis. Also, it might make mobley interested in returning to houston as well. I think Francis would play a lot better once back home in familiar digs. He won't put us over the top, but he's the best use of an MLE i could think of. All we need is a 4 after that and we're in good shape.
Yes, they are. They are cheaper and have been on the team for 2+ year, you know what you will get from them, and they haven't had injury problems. So yes, those 2 are > stevie with his contract right now.
look...all i'm saying is that if somehow francis is bought out...and keyword is somehow...we'll still have to pay him MLE money, which is 6 million per year but for at least 3 -4 years (amounts to around 24 million), versus if we can get him through a trade, his salary will be 16.5 and 17 for only 2 years, so we can test him out for shorter duration. Couple witht the fact that we can offload rafer's 15 million and juwan's 14 million remaining, it's definitely a good trade for houston. on top of that we'll be able to also get a mid-late first round pick, I think its a gd trade for us for sure. the only reason why this won't happen is that the pacers won't be so interested to get ONLY juwan, rafer, Lee, and 2 first pick for jermaine. why? because it doesn't offer them much salary cap relief. the knicks would bite and we will bite as well(condition to francis's knee upon physical).
David Lee had such a high FG% because his teammates give him the ball when he's right under the basket. He's not all that special.
If that were true, why can't we get the ball to Yao right under the basket. Wanna know why? Cause Yao gets blocked out and has to fight for position on every position. Lee has Curry taking attention away from him. He's quick and get establish low post position and get open. Not cause duh..his teamates get the ball to him right under the basket and he sucks.
Steve's dumbness is overrated. If we had had smart point guard guy Rafer instead of Steve we would have had the worst record in bball in two or three consecutive years. Steve is physically as tough as they come. He never gives up in a game.. Is he the perfect fit? No, but Chauncey Billups, Nash and the couple of other perfect fits are unavailable. Tracey is the perfect backcourt guy to make up for Steve's shortcomings as a point guard. Tracy is tall and can function for part of the game as a smart distributing pg from his position as a two guard. This is all predicated on Steve's health being adequate.
Well I just saw that Dwayne Wade is getting an operation on his kneee. His condition, exactly the same as Steve Francis. "Jumpers Knee" Tendonitis. I guess they go in and clean up the knee, make logintudinal cuts in the tendon so that the tendon can extend out more and have better range of motion. My question is this. If D Wade can do this, why can't Francis??? Unless of course Francis will not let anyone touch him. Guess two things. A) Stevies faking his knee injurty or B) Stevie's knee injury isn't severe and it'll heal in the offseason. Both scenarios means to me that Steve Francis will be healthy and ready to go next season.
Actually if you remember Yao's first year, he was shooting some rediculous percentage, why? Because Steve and Cat was still the "stars" on the team and Yao was getting a lot of easy looks. I'm still in the camp that we shouldn't try to run plays through Yao, best basket ball I've seeing is when we have our perimeter players create, and move the ball around back to Yao if the oppurtunity arises and let him finish. I think that force feeding Yao (especailly with the new rules and Yao's lack of athleticism) is not a good idea, and more often than not kills the shot clock and stagnants the offense. I think T-Mac shooting those pull up jumpers hurt not only because he wasn't making them this series, but also that a T-Mac in attack mode will force the inside defense to shift around (and away from Yao), thus getting a better oppurtunity to get Yao in better posistion as a finisher.
No back then you had Kelvin Cato and Yao in the post. Cato was to Yao what Lee is to Curry. You put a big athletic power forward next to Yao and you will see the production numbers go through the roof with Yao or the PF. Yes it helped to have the motion offense and iso plays so Yao could be free to create but still, Lee's production is mainly because of Curry. No Curry then Lee's numbers go down. No Lee and Curry will stink up Madison Square Garden.
