I don't see how these stats prove me wrong. It shows both Mobley and James as better shooters overall. And Mobley, James, and Alston better from 3 pt land. They are also career stats. Maybe the past 3 years would be better as a predictor of the near future. I agree Alston is a poor shooter, but he is a good distributor and doesn't turn the ball over. JVG said Alston was a good defender. Does that make it so? I watched SF3 play defense here for years and he was not a good defender. Neither is Alston. But in my opinion both James and Mobley are. You don't show the TO stats or the Assists/TO stats. My guess is that SF3's stats in that regard are pretty poor. In a later post, I acknowledged the money is too much for Mobley. It still doesn't change my mind that Steve Francis is a bad fit for this team. I do think Mobley would be a plus, but I wouldn't do it because of the length of contract and $. So really you haven't refuted a thing. You want Steve. I don't. No reason to get nasty about it.
Can't believe that there are still people that think Morey would have SF come here to play the point. If he comes, he'll strictly play the back-up 2 (instant scoring off the bench). I think if he comes, Alston still stays but snider is probably gone.
I can't be the only one who thinks IF SF comes here he should NOT be playing PG. What are his strengths? Driving and scoring. What are his weaknesses? Passing and dribbling too much. We already have a PG who can pass the ball, and now in James we have one who can shoot the ball. I know its hard sometimes to change position when you've been doing the same thing your whole career, but SF as PG here would kill the team. SF backing up T-mac would be a whole different story. Trade Luther and sura for another PF.
Alston is not a good distributor. He just distribute the ball to TMAC everytime. Of course he had less turnover. Alston can drive, but he cannot find the open man or finish. Alston is not a playmaker. All other staring NBA PGs and VSpan >>> Alston
I just don't see why SF would come back to the team that traded him. I believe he was pretty bitter when he first heard the news that he was being traded. I think he would go to the Clips because of playing time and the Cuttino factor.
I don't know if this has been posted, but I saw someone post on one of the threads that they hoped we could get Cat and Steve. Enjoy this read from Hollinger, thought it was funny, but true: 21. L.A. Clippers (added Al Thornton; lost Jason Hart, Daniel Ewing and James Singleton) I'll bump up this rating a little if they can nab Steve Francis. But only a little, because Elton Brand would never see the ball again. He'd just wave his hand helplessly in the post while Francis and Cuttino Mobley relive their monogamous passing routine from their Houston days ("Francis, back to Mobley … over to Francis … change sides and dishes to Mobley … back over to Francis who dribbles out top … two on the shot clock … Francis kicks to Mobley, his jumper from the corner is up and …"). The other three guys might as well play with their arms inside their jerseys. I love Stevie Francis and still have his jersey, but I don't know that he would work for this team either. However, I am split on the decision because it would be cool to have him back and he is on my NBA Live 07 squad.
If the offense flows through TMac, it shouldnt be too much of a problem. Problem with LA Clips is that Cassell is not a distributor and Livingston is not a good enough defender.
Actually, I probably should've put up the points per 40 minutes stats along with those numbers. High %s don't mean all that much. If it did, everyone would be letting PF and Cs take shots. For the 06-07 season Pts per 40 mins: SF: 16.4 RA: 14.3 MJ: 16.0 FT per 40 mins: SF: 6.8 RA: 2.3 MJ: 3.6 Ast per 40 mins: SF: 5.5 RA: 5.8 MJ: 5.7 TO per 40 mins: SF: 3.2 RA: 2.2 MJ: 2.5 Reb per 40 mins: SF: 5.1 RA: 3.7 MJ: 3.2 Career Pts per 40 mins: SF: 19.4 RA: 13.9 MJ: 17.3 FT per 40 mins: SF: 6.5 RA: 2.5 MJ: 3.5 Ast per 40 mins: SF: 6.4 RA: 6.9 MJ: 6.0 TO per 40 mins: SF: 3.8 RA: 2.5 MJ: 2.5 Reb per 40 mins: SF: 6.0 RA: 3.9 MJ: 3.8 Pts: SF> James> Alston FT: SF>> James> Alston Ast: Alston> James = SF TO: Alston> James>> SF Reb: SF>> Alston> James Opinions can be skewed. The stats show that while a Rocket, Francis was statistically a top defending guard. In the linked article the author also mentions that Francis has taken alot of flak for his defense, but when he's on the court, the opposing team's scoring drops significantly. Whether that's team defense or one-on-one it doesn't matter. This is also why Battier is considered a great defender yet isn't a lock-down defender like Bowen. I didn't put up A/TO numbers because I wasn't arguing that point. I admit that Francis' A/TO numbers are pretty bad for a PG, which is why I would use him as a SG or backup PG. Point taken, I just hadn't seen your post before I made my post. I think I've clearly refuted 1) your claim that Steve is a poor defender, and 2) his shooting is poor. You can argue about his A/TO numbers and how he dribbles too much, and I won't stop you, because that could very likely happen. However, he did adjust to JVG's and his system, which is more than I can say for Bonzi, so I think he will be able to adjust to Adelman's system and contribute. The risk is the LLE. The possible upside is that we see a SF that passes more since he's got Yao and T-Mac to distribute to.
After actually watching NBA games, I care to disagree with you. Cassell was a great distributor and Livingston was one heck of a defender. He shut down T-Mac quite a few times, better than most other guys I've ever seen!
Huh? Might want to do some research on that one Cassell is an above average distributor and Livingston is/was an above average defender.
lol i love hollinger. i dont see what francis can contribute with. hes a black hole on offense and his D is mediocre. we need a PG who can find open teamates and create for himself. Aaron Brooks is our closest thing to that. people here overrate Francis' penetration. he doesnt have an explosive first step. francis penetrates by crossing over (usually 5 dribbles) and then going toward the basket. while it does work, its at the expense of the flow and rhythm of the offense.
Are you implying that I have never actually watched an NBA game? Anyway, from what I've seen, Cassell loves to shoot more than pass. Granted he's very good at pulling up mid-range and burying an off-balance fade-away, he still opts for the shot more than the pass. Livingston may have the length to guard TMac but I dont think he has the quicks to guard PGs. Maybe thats why the Clips are searching for a PG.
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bonzi had no problems adjusting to Van Gundy's system on the court. the problem was OFF the court. Francis playing under Van Gundy was like watching someone try to fit a square puzzle piece in a triangle hole. all good players should have no problems adapting to new systems.
Steve rancis is now a Rocket again per the Chronicle!! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4982185.html
Steve Francis is now a Rocket again per the Chronicle!! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4982185.html
