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Steve Francis Bought out: Shall we make a run?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sanjaylucknow, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. Rileydog

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    Adelman's offense is predicated on quick player and ball movement. Steve's game hasn't changed one bit. He is the death of player and ball movement. Indeed, in yesterday's Matt J/JVG afternoon show, they mentioned how Adelman did not like Mobley because the offense would come to a halt when he got the ball. Steve is 100X worse.

    In Adelman's system, it's not about individual stars. It's about synergy and fluidity. In this system, Alston may be a better player than Steve.
     
  2. pillage

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    I'm starting to get to the point where I don't think the Rockets will go after Francis. I think they should, but if it really takes 5 mil to sign Scola, and if they resign Deke and Hayes, unfortunately I don't see it happening.

    Morey will probably take care of everything else, i.e. Scola and the remaining free agents on the team before worrying about Francis - if he does at all. By then he may be gone. Oh well, I still think he can be a valuable contributor, but I'll give Morey the benefit of the doubt.
     
  3. vibe

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    <b>Dang, I agree!!</b>
     
  4. vibe

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    How are SF's knees? Thought that was an issue in NYC. Maybe that was already discussed.
     
  5. anon3803

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    Most people agree that the knee tendonitis situation was exaggerated by Steve because he didn't want to play in the Knicks system. Even after he returned from his 'injury' he had two 4-6 game runs where he averaged 20+ pts. So he can obviously still score.
     
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    I really do not understand the logic of those who think having Francis back would be a bad situation for the Rox. I am a firm believer that the more assets you have on a team the better. Say for example Stevie ended up not being a right fit for us, he would be a very enticing piece for other teams to want to trade for mid season. The Rockets never have many players that other teams are interested in, he could be a great asset to our team not only as a player (which I think he still is) but as future trade bait if necessary!
     
  7. rofflesaurus

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    Baron Davis is twice the player Francis is. noone cares about Francis anymore. He's a has been who wont ever win a championship.
     
  8. steddinotayto

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    I'm having a hard time searching for pictures of Baron Davis with his championship ring. Can you help a brother out?
     
  9. MLittle577

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    Easy to find, they are right next to the ones where T-Mac and Yao is holding the Larry O'Brien trophy.
     
  10. steddinotayto

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    That's what I thought. But I hardly think Yao and McGrady are has beens and Francis still has some gas left to be productive.
     
  11. anon3803

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    You got any numbers to back that up? Oh, that's right you don't. The stats show that they're very close with Francis' career numbers being slightly better. Davis only beats Francis in scoring and that's because he takes more shots (Davis has lower FG, FT, and 3PT percentages).

    Isn't that a good thing? If nobody cares for him, his value goes down and you can get him cheap.

    So was Baron Davis from 04-06 when he shot under 40% for two seasons and still jacked up enough shots to get almost 20ppg.
     
  12. AMS

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    Many also forget that Francis had a horrible year with his ear disease (the year we sucked and got Yao in the draft), other than that, he has given this team 100% and would be an awesome addition...

    Bring em home...
     
  13. Aruba77

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    i'd love to have Francis back, and actually think he could restart his career playing for Rick. The problem is that we already have a poor man's Francis in Mike James (with a better 3pt shot). As much as i don't like Alston, it's hard for me to reconcil Francis and James in the same backcourt. I doubt we are moving James, since we just traded for him and he seems like he's settling in. Unfortunately, teams aren't clamoring for Alston, so ...

    The way I see it, Morey has to trade away at least 1 pg and 1 sg in order for the Franchise to come back. He won't want to be in Houston if he can't play.
     
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    Steve Blake signed back w/ the Blazers... Any chance the Rockets making a move with the Nuggets for either Martin or Camby and with whatever is left sign Francis with?
     
  15. saleem

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    I doubt if the Rockets will make a move for Camby.Martin no chance at all with Scola on board.
     
  16. Akeem O.

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    I see the situation as twofold, we should get Francis as another option and to keep him from signing with a competing team. It really is a short term risk with a lot of upside.
     
  17. rofflesaurus

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    dont you think morey and adelman would have hinted at getting francis if they wanted him? we've heard NOTHING about francis except from houston homers who think he could help us. frankly, steve francis is a poor man's mike james in this stage of his career, but mike james owns francis defensively. also, the clippers just released Jason Hart. its obvious theyre going to try and get Francis (thankfully) so everyone here can stop talking about him.
     
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    Hart wasn't released, he was a free agent. Clippers were considering him but Jazz just signed him.
     
  19. BEXCELANT

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    yah Adelman hints about everything he does. That's why he caught the board flat footed with the Scola signing. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Angkor Wat

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    Exactly. Most of the fans here never even mentioned the name Luis Scola until the team shocked us with this trade out of nowhere, same with Aaron Brooks. Neither of those names were heard anywhere until the deal was actually made.

    And since when did Steve Francis become a cancer? He was a great teammate here in Houston and befriended Yao right when he got off the bus. I can't believe people think Steve would hurt our team. We are an offensive team now and thats why he brings to the table. You don't pass on a All-star who put up 18/6/6 (very rare) that is willing to sign for dirt cheap.

    If we move Rafer, JL3 and/or Head, we should make a run at SF3. If we don't plan on moving any more guards, we don't sign him because there is no room, not because we don't need to use him. With the way the NBA works with injuries and everything else factored in, it wouldn't hurt to have more firepower on that bench just in case.
     

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