off duty cops should not be trying to pull over people in the middle of the night. does any from houston remember ida delaney. she was shot and killed by an off duty cop who had been drinking and tried to pull her over. he was convicted of man slaughter.
How can you even equate the two situations? Foley is the one who was driving drunk and almost killing people on the freeway with his idiocy. This off duty cop did the right thing. As a resident of San Diego, I'm glad he followed him to make sure he got off the road and is punished. It's not the off duty cops fault that Foley was a dumbass and decided to come at him. If this off duty cop was drunk, then that is a completely different story which is what your comparison is. I love how everyone is so quick to bash the people that put themselves in harms way to protect us from danger before they will criticize those that put all of us in danger as Steve Foley was doing. Oh yeah all of this is coming from a Chargers season ticket holder. I'll be blaming Foley for not being on the field this season, not an off duty cop going above and beyond his duty.
How did he know he was an OFF-DUTY cop? WTF does OFF DUTY mean anyway? Shouldn't he be minding his own business. I would not pull over for anyone that is not in a police car...off or on duty. DD
if someone robs you cause you pulled over at 3 in the morning because they said they were an off duty cop, you're a dumbass. and I wasn't equating the situation, just making the point that no one should be expected to pull over for someone other than a cop in a cop car. and you have no idea if foley was putting people in danger. I'm glad your opinion is in the minority on this issue.
i'm all for cops doing their job while "off-duty" but i definitely agree with this. no one in their right mind is pulling over for a civilian car in the middle of the night.
How did the OFF DUTY cop keep up with him if he was doing 90mph and weaving through traffic? The only answer is, he was also doing 90mph and weaving through traffic.....as a civilian. I hope he got a ticket too. DD
On a similar note, I went to the Zoo on Monday (it was free ) and the traffic was pretty bad. There were traffic cops and one held up his hand to stop me and I did. I happened to be on the phone and didn't notice him waiving only the guy next to me to go. So I inched forward probably about 6 inches and he starts screaming at me. I TOLD YOU TO STOP SO YOU STOP. AND GET OFF THE PHONE. I ignored him and it didn't really bother me too much because I thought it was funny watching him pop a blood vessel. However, I was wanting to either flick him off or at the least bite my thumb at him or laugh at him as I drove by. But I wasn't sure if there was any law that said I couldn't even do that. Anyone know?
I have heard a cop threaten to arrest someone for spitting on the ground, calling it littering. So, yeah, I'd say they could find something...
It was times like that that I wish I was a lawyer or knew enough about the law to call their bluff. Hand them my business card... Yonkers & Associates, Equire. LOL
Guess that cop knew what he was doing. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/pres.../sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2587718 Foley's blood alcohol level 0.233 percent when shotAssociated Press SAN DIEGO -- Chargers linebacker Steve Foley had a blood-alcohol level of 0.233 percent, nearly three times California's legal limit of 0.08 percent, when he was shot Sept. 3 outside his home. Prosecutors on Thursday noted the level in an affidavit for a search warrant as they requested a blood sample from Foley on suspicion that he was using performance-enhancing drugs when he was shot and seriously wounded by an off-duty police officer. Authorities have no evidence that Foley was using performance-enhancing drugs but want to test his blood because the linebacker has had previous run-ins with law enforcement, according to the affidavit Investigators have already asked prosecutors to charge Foley with misdemeanor drunken driving. "His history of aggressive and even violent contact with law enforcement indicates the possibility of more than mere alcohol involvement," wrote criminal investigator Dan Nordell. "[Steroids] can cause erratic behavior in those that use them. This has been given names like 'roid rage for the uncontrollable outbursts and violence experienced by some users." Foley's attorney, John G. Phillips, refused to comment on the affidavit. His agent, David Levine, also declined to comment. "I have no comment about whatever they're doing," Levine said. "That's not going to be my part in this." Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer said after a team practice that he also had nothing to say about Foley's condition or the investigation. "I'm not given to making pronouncements, particularly in matters of that nature," he said. Representatives for the Chargers also declined to comment, citing the "sensitive nature" of the investigation, but the team issued a brief statement: "The Chargers hope that everyone will wait until all of the facts are revealed and not rush to judgment." Authorities are seeking the blood sample from Sharp Memorial Hospital, where Foley was reported in fair condition earlier this week. Foley was shot three times -- twice in the back of the left leg and once on the outside of the left thigh -- by an off-duty Coronado police officer near his home in suburban Poway. San Diego County sheriff's officials said the officer followed Foley's car on suspicion that the driver was drunk. According to the sheriff's department, Foley got out of the car and began walking toward the officer, who said he was armed and fired a warning shot. The officer shot Foley after the linebacker reached into his pants with his right hand. The officer, Aaron Mansker, has been placed on paid administrative leave. The NFL tests players for performance-enhancing drugs, although there are no reliable tests for human growth hormone. Players are randomly selected for testing and can be tested during the offseason. In 2000, Foley told Cincinnati reporters he was in the NFL's alcohol rehab program after getting a DUI the previous year. Since 1999, Foley has been arrested at least five times, including cases that police say involved alcohol and confrontations with officers, The San Diego Union-Tribune has reported. In April, he was arrested for investigation of resisting arrest after police said he scuffled with officers. He also was booked for investigation of battery on a police officer and public drunkenness, but the district attorney's office decided there wasn't enough evidence to bring charges in that case. Before that, Foley pleaded guilty to drunken driving in Louisiana in 1999 and received probation.
I still have to ask, how the hell an off duty police officer was able to keep up with the guy? So, 2 speeders weaving in and out of traffic is a good thing? Whatever.... DD
Who says the cop has to weave to keep up? EDIT: I read the original story again. Yeah, I guess they did weave in and out of traffic... at 90mph! Yikes. EDIT2: I read it closer. It only said Foley weaved. So I guess the cop could still have followed him without weaving, albeit driving fast.
He may have been drunk, but the cop was still OFF DUTY. I'm just confused as to how he got shot in the back of the leg twice if he was walking towards the cop?
