Stern: Deal By Tuesday Or No Games Through Christmas

Why is Stern even in this conversation? His opinion doesn't mean ANYTHING.
Its owners vs. players.

 

Stern should stick his head back up his arse, where it belongs, and shut up.

 

****ing grinch

 

I cannot say how I really feel about David Stern. It would even be too inflammatory for an anonymous internet site.

 

Even though i am not a fan of Stern, he is trying to get this over with. I guess.

 

I think what Stern meant to say was..."If we can't get this thing done on Tuesday then I'm not sure when it'll get done, it's possible we'll not be playing on Christmas."

and not the "Get it done on Tuesday or I'll cancel the rest of the season until January."

 

Its because Stern is representing the owners. Stern is to the owners what Billy Hunter is to the players. Thats screwed because he should be like a mediator taking a neutral role. The players are part of the NBA just like the owners? So why is he straight out on the owners side?

As for those arguing the players are being selfish because of a few million dollars - its not just about one player or two, its about ALL the players as a whole - for now and the future. So if you add up what ALL the players would be conceding - its MUCH MORE THAN JUST A FEW MILLION. We are talking hundreds of millions when you apply it ALL the players. Thats just for the current players, what about the future players. How much would they be losing?

 

Stern says the most divisive issues are luxury tax penalties and contract lengths.

Luxury tax issue:

Contract lengths issue:

And also where they stand with the BMI issue:

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/32701731

 

Because the league is the teams, not the players. And the owners, not the players, own the teams. And therefore, Stern technically works for the owners, not the players.

That said, you are right. For the good of the league, Stern should take more of a mediator role.

 

If you add up all assets in Kenya, we would be talking BILLIONS of dollars!!!!

How can you Possibly justify millionares refusing to take a 3% difference (and as a consequence loss of arena jobs etc). They're ******* millionares, and while they blow money likes its tissue the rest of the world can only sit back and watch the economy rip itself to shreds. Dont give me any of the 7% = 200+ million crap, thats because the leauge spends 2 Billion in revenue on a few hundred people - Think about that, 2 billion between 450 people who are paid to play the game Eveyone on this forum plays for free.

Im not pro-owner or anything - i dont give a s*** about who gets what slice of BRI, but at a time when everyone is hurting, for me it is simply unfathomable that anyone can justify the blatant money grab that is occuring, for either side really.

Also for everyone hating on David Stern - yes i diskile him too, but he is simply doing his job, and undoubtedly doing a damn fine job of it. I'd recommend watching his interviews with David Aldridge on Nba.com - the best opinions are formed after hearing both sides of the argument.

 

Is it possible for the fans to impeach Stern?

 

I loathe stern. If there is no season, my love for basketball may be extinguished.

 

That's a non-binding arbitrator.

Mediators are more like a couples counselor in these situations. Best thing they can do is be a third party voice of reason and get both sides talking instead of bickering. Hopefully, any BS the owners are trying to squeak through is going to get called out.

Honestly, I don't get why mediators aren't involved a whole lot earlier in these CBA talks. They should be brought in the second you hit an impasse. With where we are now, arbitration should happen to get at least a one year agreement with an option for a second.

 

Far be it from me to defend Stern. And this isn't really defending him, but the article cut out part of his quote and put the "..." there instead.

Stern said that he wasn't saying there would be no games by Christmas in his capacity to cancel games, just that it was a gut feeling. So he isn't making a direct threat that he will cancel games unless there is a deal.

I'm not saying that makes his attitude or handling of the situation OK, just that having all the facts and an accurate quote would be better.

 

but he is making a threat. a lightly veiled threat. he's a manipulative b**** busy manipulating.

 

Don't even kid yourself. You damn well know the next game the Rockets will be playing you will be either attending or watching.

With that said...

I'm not sure who is right or wrong here but I read somewhere that Stern and the owners are trying to protect the small market teams.

If you noticed, the NBAPA is being represented by players that are on big market teams. Fisher (Lakers) Wade (Miami) Amare (New York). I'm not very educated in the economics of sports but I know one thing, both sides are greedy. At the end of the day everyone will still be a millionaire or billionaire, but the people who work at the arena's and the people who do the grunt work for the teams are the ones getting screwed.

 

Your bias is clearly evident. I'm not sure you even read the article and got anything more from it than what you wanted to read.

Stern did not cancel 5.5 weeks of the season a week after cancelling the first 2. He didn't even threaten to do it. He said that if a deal isn't reached by Tuesday that his gut feeling is that no deal will be made in time to begin the season by Christmas.

 

Stern was on Mike and Mike this morning and he was fairly interesting, apparently he went to Billy Hunter 3 years ago and said the CBA was not working for them, and that they needed to try to get something done, Hunter basically just ignored it....

The players may be the ones that are being troublesome, they have a GREAT deal, and are not interested in a fair one.....at some point, they will cave though, they are not smart enough in general to do their own league, so they need the NBA, and can not afford to burn a year of their career that they can never get back.

One thing I found interesting, was the Colin Cowherd said most NBA players (like 75%) are broke after 2 years out of the league.

DD

 

Stern was also on the Dan Patrick show. Dan asked him why should the players make concessiond for a deal the owners AGREED to before and for mistakes owners made. Stern got really pissed off at tbat question and the rest of the interview was kind of tense.