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Stephen Silas is proud of being 10-27

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Jan 3, 2023.

  1. xtruroyaltyx

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    Tanking or not prioritizing winning is for the front office. Coaches and players don’t go into games not trying to win. They certainly don’t go three seasons trying to be the worst. Silas is trying to do better, he just hasn’t been able to.

    As far as maximizing their 3 year window by tanking I’ll just agree to disagree. I’m against tanking altogether so I don’t think they’ve used their time wisely if the goal was to intentionally be the worst team for multiple years in a row.
     
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  2. Corrosion

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    He hasn't been able to win much because he doesn't have the horses to win .... these kids aren't good at basketball, they are just athletes with potential to learn how to play basketball. That's on Stone.

    Ethically I'm really not in favor of it either .... but how else does a team acquire the premium talent required to compete for championships .... you aren't getting them often in the middle of the draft and to lure them in FA you have to have something special to offer other than money because contracts are standardized with the salary cap, then there's the lure of playing for one of the East/West coast cities & mega markets who have won 14 of the last 20 championships .... It's just the way the ball bounces.
     
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    Oklahoma City.
     
  4. krosfyah

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    OKC only has 6 more wins and are also not in the playoff race. As of right now, they're tied for 7-9 in the draft order. You'd be happy with that?
     
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    Anybody who thinks a coach with the WORST RECORD IN NBA HISTORY that has a team with multiple multiple first round picks on it is a complete utterless moron!!! No he doesn’t have the Warriors roster, but we’re talking the whole entire history since the inception of the league… worst record. Many teams have gone through rebuilding over the history of the NBA. Quit making excuses for the man….gives up double digit leads at home on a regular basis because he sucks at making necessary adjustments throughout games. Brothers, we’re not talking about a “slump”….get it in your heads that we’re talking about the WORST RECORD IN NBA HISTORY….never in history has a man had a worse record in the league!!!
     
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    Didn't Mike Breen also say he never saw so many young players playing heavy rotational mm minutes at the same time?
     
  7. krosfyah

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    If all blame rests with the coach, how do you explain that the Spurs record is .324?

    But I think I see your problem. Maybe you don't understand what tanking is? If the Rockets tank for 3 more years, by design, nothing will change. How can the Rockets simultaneously tank and get better?
     
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    On the Pops comparison. It's more on development than W/L. Dejounte Murray was a 29th pick, after a few years, they got him good enough to flip him for 3 first round picks and a swap.

    We have Tyty (29th) and KPJ (30th), I'm not expecting Silas to do the midas touch, and get them to be like Murray, but can't be messing up on our #2nd and #3rd draft prospects.
     
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    You think it's a weakness for a big to shoot 80% from the free throw line?
     
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  10. DaDakota

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    He is too weak to be a coach - we need a stronger voice.

    Great guy, good assistant, not a head coach.

    DD
     
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    considering they haven't even played their #2 draft pick a single minute i'd say that's pretty decent.
     
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    Why are y’all acting like OKC doesn’t have SGA who is SIGNIFICANTLY better than anyone on our roster? SGA is playing like a borderline top 10 player.

    they should be noticeably better than us just based off him alone…we pray that any of our young guys ever come close to his current level

    impressive win against Boston the other day without him tho
     
  13. Reeko

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    OKC traded their star and got a young player like SGA in return

    we traded our superstar/MVP, and got a bunch of potential non-lotto picks and pick swaps that won’t convey plus no player worth a damn
     
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    Fixed. [​IMG]
     
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    I would for sure, because they've found their guy, and we don't have a guy. SGA is clearly a top player in the NBA, looking like a perennial all star, and he's 24 years old. That is why you tank, you tank to find a player like SGA and then build up from there. So it's not just as simple as what seed you are, the context surrounding that is very important. Nobody wants to be the 7 seed with a team of 28 year old dudes who are all mid as hell. But when most of your rotation is 21 and under, and you have a 24 year old player who is arguably playing near an MVP level, and you won 24 games last year, that is the perfect time that you want to be winning 35 games or so. That's the exact growth you want to see.
     
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    Dude, I've been watching this league for 55 years and I cannot think of a team who added 7 #1's over a two year span.
    There's only three instances I can think of that are remotely close ....

    The Thunder who had 5 (#1) picks in the past two drafts.

    The Magic had 5 picks between 2000 & 2001

    The Celtics in 19 & 20 the 6 total #1 picks but traded 2 of those away.

    Even the process 76ers had 4 years to integrate 7 #1 picks.

    The Rockets have had 3 #1's 3 other times in their history, (2012, 2001 & 1998), only two players from the 98 draft played for the Rockets, the 3rd (Mirsad Turckan) was traded. All of the 01 picks were traded for Eddie Griffin..

    Never has a team had 7 #1's over two drafts.
     
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  17. daywalker02

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    Lmao we are not aiming for the Guinness Book of World Records.

    Other younger teams might be approximately couple years older on average but NBA people don't care unless the performance is there.
     
  18. Verbal Christ

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    From what I read Detroit plays "great team ball" full of promising young players --- How is that working out for them? Dwayne Casey must be a moron too! :rolleyes: cue the "but but OKC" posts next! :D
     
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  19. daywalker02

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    Keep in mind that Presti is still a good GM despite letting JH go and Chet hasn't played a game.
     
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  20. Reeko

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    that was said by people who don’t even watch Detroit play…every terrible team looks so much better than the Rockets when u watch a highlight of them twice a season I guess
     

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