I suggest that you edit this post. Mango did nothing to deserve being insulted like that. In fact, he went to far more trouble than I would have ever considered taking to show that either you don't know what you were talking about, or you are in a state of confusion. Take your pick.
You clowned on another guy for not knowing about cap issues so you just got a little back yourself. I think SJax is a good player, but this trade isn't going to go happen. The fact that we are even talking about it means it's not going to happen. We didn't think we were going to trade for Scola, Artest, or Lowry. Things happen when you don't hear about it. That's how DM works for the most part.
Namecalling? Seriously... what is this? 5th grade recess? Grow up. Mango didn't do anything other than use documented proof in his explanation...
I disagree. And I will leave it at that. I read the previous posts that were pointing out what I said about the cap, and I repped those people for doing so. I am still not convinced that I am dead wrong. Mango did not have to quote 1172 times, like I care anyway. But, i got the point from previous posts... btw Dickcheese is playful, that is what makes it such a great word...You are all Dick cheeses! Woohoo!
Go ahead and Pile on. I felt that I understood something about the cap, maybe I was misinformed. Either way, it was already pointed out twice before Mango's long ass 16 quoted post... You know what, I overreacted. My fault Mango, but my interpretation of your post was different from obviously everyone elses. I thought you came on strong after I had already been informed. Not to mention repped everyone I had wronged...
You keep missing the point that <i>sammy</i> brought up about you taking a shot at <i>roslolian</i>, yet you needed others to help you when it was <i>Game Time</i>. Rep <i>Bimathug, aelliott, leebigez etc</i> all you want, you didn't know as much about the NBA Salary Cap as you tried to project and were out of line for taking a shot at <i>roslolian</i>. From my POV, if you want to be a <i>Player</i> and take shots at others, be able to back up what you post by yourself.
"I don't think you understand how the cap works". Than I went on to say "I THINK" blahblahblah, hoping someone would remind me what it is I read. I would not just make this stuff up about the cap you know, I was just pointing out something that I THOUGHT was a factor in our salary cap situation. So is that considered taking "a shot" at someone? Simply basketball conversation I think, If I am wrong, correct me, that is how these things work. And on a forum, I am not going to go look up a reference for every single thing I write, but that does not mean that I am just making it all up to help my claim either.
Here is the quote in which you said I attacked a poster, and than you decided to fire away and attack me... "I don't THINK you understand how the cap works". THINK about it.
No, I didn't attack you at first. Your response: I knew that you were in trouble when you didn't show a link to the <i>Larry Coon NBA Salary Cap FAQ</i> (or any credible source) and were trying to reference something from another poster (Bimathug) who very likely has read the <i>Larry Coon NBA Salary Cap FAQ</i>. You had an exchange with <i>aelliott</i> about the <i>rules</i>, but never got back to me with a response or amended what you said to <i>roslolian</i>. <hr> You were the one acting as an <i>Authority</i>, so it isn't for me to correct you. It is interesting that you won't look up a reference for everything that you write, yet <i>aelliott</i> had no shame citing a reference when needed. Even though he doesn't post much, <i>aelliott</i> (from my POV) is an extremely sharp poster.
Stephen Jackson doesn't strike me as the type of player you would want to make a deep playoff run with. I'd rather stick with McGrady
So you have acknowledged an attack, that is a start. I said from the beginning that I read it somewhere, and that is where it ends. I have been looking for it, and that is the best that I can do. I remember reading about some sort of fee when you get over a certain number of expirings. Why would I get back to you? You read the thread didn't you? There was no resolution, and there is no resolution still. The "cap gurus" did what they could to explain it to me, and that was it. Why do I need to report back to you, ever? Or roslolian for that matter. I said what I "thought" in terms of the conversation on Stephen Jackson, and the conversation went on. Was I now? "I don't THINK you understand the cap." YOU overreacted, and tried to "correct" what had already been discussed, and then you said I attacked someone, which is a dead lie......
Wow I leave off here and when I come back Knote gets the dog pile treatment lol. To be honest you brought it upon yourself by: 1) Telling me I don't understand how the cap works when apparently you are the one confused (yes that does count as clowning someone fyi because you are implying I don't know what I'm talking about) 2) Calling somebody who called you out on it as "dickcheese". Maybe it was just a playful term on your part, but it certainly wasn't on Mango's and everybody else. Anyway I'm not sure sure why you're still not convinced you're dead wrong, but the fact is teams don't get penalized for getting expiring contracts. I also find it funny you are arguing against expiring contracts when my post refutes your statement that S-jak will be a nice 10 million expiring when his contract is up. You were basically trying to reinforce my original argument lol... But anyway I think there's no need to derail the thread, and I am personally not a fan when the discussions become personal, so how about we all move on and talk about S-Jak again, ok?
But that is the point, we would trade multiple expiring contracts for Stephen Jackson's 1 expiring contract. This way we would not hit that "imaginary fee" that I guess I was dreaming about... So, In my line of thinking, We should get a player before those contracts expire and cost us $. Even with the rules some of you guys presented, I think the point is still valid isn't it?
1. It is funny, I really thought I had it right. But I did say "I don't THINK you understand the cap...." I intended to leave it open for discussion, because I am by know means a cap guru. I was not trying to be a dictator or anything, just wanted to talk basketball, which we did, until... 2. Meh, I felt I was attacked. I like the word DickCheese. That is all...
I like Jackson, for the right money he would be a great addition. Always struck me as a "clutch" shooter.
Um I don't think the point is valid because expiring contracts won't cause us dollars. As everyone else had already said you might be confusing capholds with expirings, and even then cap holds don't cause dollars, they just tie up your capspace until you sign or renounce your players. More importantly the guys we have aren't just expiring contracts, they are also legitimately useful players who are signed for a reasonable amount. I'd rather have Scola at say 6 mill a year and Battier at say 4 mill a year at that point than be paying a 33 year old S-jax 10 million at the final year of his contract. I think you're obsessing too much on the player and not paying enough attention to the amount of money we need to pay for him. Yes S-Jax would be a nice player to have on our roster, and whether or not Tmac came back strong having him here to boost our scoring alongside AB and Scola probably guarantees our playoff spot, but he is not worth the money GS is paying for his services.
