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Stephen Hawking: "Humans Have Entered a New Stage of Evolution"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Invisible Fan, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. Royals Ego

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    i knew this all along
     
  2. Dubious

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    Evolution is an ongoing process but it doesn't have any plan or agenda. It's a mindless function of entropy. The only evaluation of change is the fact of survival, there are no qualitative factors.

    I'm going to have a hardy laugh when homo sapiens finally figure out there is no point in continuing to procreate the race.
     
  3. Mike Hunt

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    ^ this
     
  4. professorjay

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    I want my own Gundam when this stuff happens.
     
  5. Dubious

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    Maybe homo sapiens are a disruptive change in evolution. It screwed up and allowed consciousness to influence their own evolution, with their qualitative judgement and bias.

    happy holiday everyone!
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    I agree with Hawking's general point that evolution's agenda will be tailored by us.

    It becomes a matter of how we view and approach the mysteries of our world and how that translates to the masses. That sounds like a rational discussion to be had, but it's rather like carrying an ongoing conversation at a dysfunctional family reunion.

    I'd sleep better if we had a way to accept our cultural baggages and decided the best interest was to move on.
     
  7. Shroopy2

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    The same Stephen Hawking who asked if human life on earth could survive another 100 years cuz of all the harmful inventions we made that could destroy the planet and ourselves? Very dystopian look on human life he has. Why hint around at what we could do, he wants us intentionally reprogrammed so we get rid of the destructive DNA and behavior in us.

    Can a robotic body replicate itself and grow like flesh? Well, can't wait for the super peaceful android evolution of humans. The nice thing about evolution is its very gradual, so humans can naturally adapt to it. We can put jetpacks on our children and they'll expand upon that themselves from there.

    A bit of a contradiction. There's no plan or agenda, only survival. Then there's no point in procreating the race, but then that goes against survival?

    Really...nothing matters and there's no point to anything. Absolutely nothing is guaranteed except death. Existence simply is. I'm fine with that, since ultimately on a universe scale there's little we can control. Live, wake up the next day, do the best you can until we succumb.

    Its just that there's no other organism or species we're aware of that told itself there's no point in existing on. If there's any "sense" of what its all about, its willingful self extinction is unneccessary. I dont think the ultimate sacrifice of to the cosmos is to rid ourselves from it. I dont see why humans have to outsmart themselves on this issue.
     
  8. Dubious

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    Do not fear the robots.
    They are here to save us.

    From ourselves.
    And our certain fate.
     
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    As someone who is captivated by the universe and would absolutely want to live on another planet if given the opportunity, I was pretty surprised by this post. I can certainly understand people not wanting to live on another planet, but how could you think that there's not a large number of people who would? It seems like a very natural curiosity to me.
     
  10. Dubious

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    It won't be because you want to, it will be because you have to.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    There's an internet meme floating around about the singularity, where one day technology outpaces natural evolution and humanity is forced to cope with it by changing life as we know it. This could be genetic engineering, cybernetics, androids, or some unforseen breakthrough. For androids, there'd be a point where they're smarter than us, so we'd have to modify ourselves to keep pace.

    In any of these situations the modified person would be distinguishable from a natural home grown person. That would be the singularity.

    I think technological optimists are so geared towards the transmission of information that the quality of information gets lost in wave of quantity. There might be 15,000 new books to read every year, but how many of them give a spark of meaning or a passion to inspire?

    And if we forcibly evolve ourselves to digest those books a year, what do we stand to gain and does it come at the expense of anything?
     
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    The easiest things I can think of are raw materials and tourism. And no cops for the first few years, I'm sure that'll open up some doors.
     
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    Hawking wouldn't be saying that if he could drive.

    Every time I get on a Houston freeway, and am surrounded by crappy drivers, I'm reminded of what a bunch of primitive morons we are.
     
     
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    If we're going to jump start our evolution I say we start building giant brains in vats and ask it to communicate with a computer. It would be cool if the spine was all steam punk looking with giant nerve/eeg interfaces. And Jacob's ladders. It should be named Toby the giant brain and have the best myspace page ever.
     
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    The fact that Hawking is still alive at all is the key. The masses are expendable.
    They will be left behind.
     
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    Humans Have Entered a New Stage of Evolution
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    our sun and planet will one day die.. and if we don't find another place to live we will die with it
     
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    we have not evolved at all since we have kept history. I know he is talking about an abstract idea of "evolution" and that's cool but I hate this idea of people thinking how far we have come.

    We are still animals, just fat and happy instead of hungry and mean.
     
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    Except you're communicating that idea to me from potentially thousands of miles away, and I'm reading your thoughts instantaneously. Hawking might have a point after all. (Also, like motorists on 59 during rush hour, odds are neither one of us has any idea how to build our own computers or information superhighways. Fat and happy, we'll just be taken along for the ride.)
     
  20. Gutter Snipe

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    This.

    Luckily for America as a whole, it has been importing intelligent people lately. We get the intellectually elite people from Canada, India, and many other countries. Unluckily for America, illegal immigration probably skews things the other way.

    As far as the singularity goes - I'd take a memory chip upgrade if that was required to stay competitive in my job market (programmer).
     

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