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Stephen Curry

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Entropy, Mar 14, 2010.

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  1. Bay Area Rocket

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    Curry was smooth tonight... how great was that behind the back left handed pass to Hunter in the lane! Of course the D-leaguer got stuffed.... I wouldn't expect anything else from the Ws. We are in full tank mode out here...
     
  2. Entropy

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    I love the little move he made when the Lakers left him open outside the 3. He did a little turn around and swished it.
     
  3. baller4life315

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    If I hear one more person try to argue that Curry is a "system player" my head might explode. That label simply doesn't apply to playmakers. If all he did was stand out on the perimeter and get spoon-fed baskets by somebody else, okay...you might have a point. That crap goes out the window whenever you're dealing with somebody like Curry that see's everything and sets the table for everybody else. You can have your obligatory arguments talking about how they play no defense or that playing uptempo results in more PPG hence more assists and the like, but none of that will erase the fact that Curry is the most indispensable player on that team AS A ROOKIE!
     
  4. FoOLiSh_AzN

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    haha bay area rocket fan nice...im from the BayArea and i love the Warriors and rockets...so what if the Warriors get the #1 pick? Wall or Curry?
     
  5. Honey Bear

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    That isn't a big accolade. Now that he's proved his worth as a play maker, I'm wondering if he can keep it up against more aggressive defenses that play up on him as he doesn't have the tools to blow by defenders. Luckily, this is a flaw that won't matter as long as he's playing in the Warriors "system".

    Can he do damage in the playoffs?
     
  6. Entropy

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    Watching tonight's game, he has enough speed and enough smarts that he doesn't need to necessarily "blow by defenders." He has a knack of slicing through the defense without going full-speed. He kind of smoothly waltzes his way in and finishes with a layup.
     
  7. Honey Bear

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    Right, but this was a regular season game and he has the luxury of operating in the Warriors offense (the 3rd worst team in the league). If the Warriors want to start winning, they will have to change the way they play basketball. Even when they had a roster full of talent, with Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington etc., they were a one and done type team. And defenses really tighten up in the playoffs, so all the gliding and waltzing might be a moot point. I see him being really good, regardless.
     
  8. baller4life315

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    I don't know to say if you really think he's not quick or explosive enough to put the ball on the floor. As evidenced by his pull-up game, ability to use screens and court vision that enables him to see all the holes/lanes to basket...he's much more than just some glorified Steve Blake type that hopelessly floats around the perimeter playing sniper and putting up empty stats in some "system". I'll be the first to admit that he's not much of a finisher that doesn't get to the line a lot nor does he create/absorb much contact around the basket -- fine. Neither does Nash or Kidd. Neither did Bibby in his prime, who I happen to think is a probably the best comparison for Curry -- although with better natural playmaking abilities and instincts.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    Curry is more Nash than Bibby. Bibby never had handles or floor vision like this and I don't remember him being much of a penetrate & dish player or nifty finisher either. Like Nash, Curry has incredible handles, mediocre hops and athleticism, eyes in the back of his head and a deadly jumper from anywhere on the floor. Both guys are proof you don't need great athleticism to be an exceptional PG in the NBA. Bibby was a fine player in his day but you couldn't center an offense around him like with Nash and Curry.

    To your earlier post, people here who call Curry a "system player" or not a real PG obviously haven't seen him play much (or at all). Their comments are based on reading box scores only. Not worth the time to debate. Just using yesterday's game, when the Warriors ran their half-court offense, who had the ball in his hands and made things happen? Moot point? Yeah right.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I guess the frustrating thing about the grass is greener with every other point guard in the league and Brooks is people completely have forgotten what Brooks did in the playoffs just last season. the second best player on the team

    I don't know a thing about curry outside of what he did in college but i know brooks is pretty damn good is about time more fans appreciated him.
     
  11. baller4life315

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    I like Curry's game otherwise I wouldn't be defending him and in agreement with you regarding about 95% of what we're saying here. That said, I see the Nash similarities but I backed off on that comparison because I don't see a Nash-level handle in Curry's game. Curry's handle and playmaking instincts already stand out and he'll have a long career of being one of the league's elite players in that department. All the same, I just don't really see that 10 on a scale of 10 if you were to rank playmakers like you do in Nash's game. I see Curry as more an offensively-minded stabilizer who's averages might top off in the 20-23 PPG and 7-9 APG territory which is roughly where Bibby was at his best. But like we both said, Curry's abilities to set the table completely blow Bibby's away. I just don't necessarily think the numbers might show that as much as you would think (like Nash's do in the 10-12 APG territory, for instance). In any event, Curry is the real deal and I'll take whatever version of him that we get.
     
  12. Bay Area Rocket

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    Take Wall, trade Monta, keep Curry.

    The Ws can always trade Wall later if necessary. Ideally, trade Monta or Wall in a sign and trade for an establshed player like Rudy Gay or Boozer. I am pretty sure the Ws will make the least savvy move possible.
     
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    You would trade Wall for Rudy Gay or Carlos Boozer?
     
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    yup thats smart. i love reading some people's opinions. because they are so damn dumb :)
     
  15. Bay Area Rocket

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    The Ws gotta make something happen. I would prefer they trade Monta iinstead of Wall for a legit 3 or 4. Curry to Boozer would be insane for about 5 years. If they got the #1, they might try to run Nellie Ball for one year with Curry, Wall, and Monta or move down a few slots. Regardless, any hypothetical trade involving Wall would also require the lucky team taking on Biedrens or Maggette's contract or both and sending back some young players or picks as well.

    I haven't scouted the college players that much this year but it seems like the Ws may be best off with the #2 and taking Turner. Nothing against Wall, but a micro backcourt just won't work for the Ws.

    Just glad the Rockets future is brighter and the Rockets' management is smarter. :cool:
     
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    I'm not calling him a system player. I'm just nitpicking at flaws that will prevent him from going to the next level. Kidd is a bit overrated IMO but a guy like Nash has quicker dribbles and the luxury of being ambidextrous. Small things go a long way for PG's.
     
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    He probably would, and I probably would, too, but that's not the question. The question is who is better right now. Like I said in my first post, I know Curry probably has more upside, but Brooks is the better, more proven player right now IMO.

    Anyways, that might not be a trade Morey would do since he would take into account the value of a player. Curry might not be enough better to justify the difference in his contract value (after his rookie contract). But it's hard to say this early.
     

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